Ok, I have this website that has 11,500 reported backlinks and 22,300 indexed pages. (My main coop "supplier") These backlinks come mainly from free templates I make, and from my own sites that I have made. Allways ranked No 1 for a certain search term... and even the little used webmaster forum on that site has outranked THIS forum for the term webmaster forum for a while... Now I am no 155 for this certain search term and No 1 is a site with 17 reported backlinks 31 indexed pages. Even the blog on the same site, did very well until Jagger, but all is gone. I don't think it is the footer links (I hope), it must be the fricking phpBB forum with many duplicate content....