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Jagger 3 - happening now on some DC's?

Discussion in 'Google' started by dkalweit, Oct 31, 2005.

  1. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    #121
    You must be talking about the J4 update. lol :D
     
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    #122

    If more people watched anime the world would be a better place. :D
     
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    NetMidWest Peon

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    #123
    I am seeing 4 different sets of results... 66.102.7.104 seems most in line with jagger2 to me.

    66.102.11.99, 66.102.9.99, 66.102.11.104, 66.102.9.104 are looking excellent, ranking me where I would expect, and setting down a few spots several sites that have nothing to do with the phrases I target. (They just happen to be linked from sites mentioning the keywords.) 216.239.59.99, 216.239.39.99 I saw earlier today, they have me at pre-jagger levels, but with some post-jagger1 sites outranking me.

    Any of those six, especially the first 4, I would be happy with.
     
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    blinxdk Peon

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    #124
    I am seeing some amazing results for me on:

    216.239.53.104
    66.102.7.104
    66.102.9.104
    66.102.11.104
    216.239.57.104


    If those roll out to all DC's I'm a happy camper
     
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  5. NetMidWest

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    #125
    Down 5 spots in 3 hours.
    Hmmm... I am seeing different results via McDar's dance tool and directly searching on 216.239.37.147 and others that show these results. I wonder if the akadns is serving something different...

    My allintitle: searches seem to be heading up by a few spots.
     
    NetMidWest, Nov 4, 2005 IP
  6. Aok

    Aok Peon

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    #126
    McDar,

    Can you explain to us the significance of Allins matching, or not coming close to matching, actual rankings?
     
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  7. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #127
    In a word - NO...

    BUT

    I have recorded data, for my one experiment page, every day since April 8th 2004.

    There is only one other timeframe, in all of that time, that Allinanchor rankings were "off the map" - That was during the Google February/March Event!

    You can scroll down the results in my Complete Report

    NOTE: That even when the the page's position went off the charts in August 2004 (due to what turned out to be a cache problem) the Allinanchor ranking stayed intact.

    I am simply stating that, in my humble opinion, a Google Update to their Algo is may effect your position. It may even effect your allinanchor. BUT to send ALL of the "Allins" (allintitle: allintext: allinurl: ) tanking, indicates a problematic change rather than a programatic change (read error not intent).

    The theory of "problematic change" is certainly supported by yesterdays (Nov 3rd) data...

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #128
    Here is what the Allin results looked like during the Google February/March Event...

    [​IMG]

    Caryl
     
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  9. Aok

    Aok Peon

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    #129
    Hi Caryl,

    All very helpful, and I appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I now understand why you're doing what you're doing.

    So it would make sense then that all your "allins" should match pretty well with your rankings in a perfect Google world, which actually is the case most of the time, except updates, right?

    So if I check my allins, and those seem to be doing really good, but my rankings are poor, then would you consider allins a good litmus test for what to expect when an update is over? (I am speaking of generalities here, not specifics, I know I know no one knows anything about Jagger's specifics right now, still in flux...)

    And again, thanks Caryl
     
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    suzigeek Peon

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    #130
    I noticed all of my sites getting pounded by the G bot yesterday into early morn today...

    Its very rare (if ever at all) that all my sites get a deep crawl at the same time.
    I'm wondering if this fits into Caryl's theory? Somehow data got screwed and they are reindexing??
     
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  11. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #131
    To answer your question in an word - NO!

    One very good example would be what the results look like for "Sandboxed" sites.

    "Sandboxed" sites often times have GREAT Allin placement - BUT - have very poor placement in the actual results.

    If a site was "Sandboxed" prior to this Google "fiasco" then nothing says they won't be so once Google settles down.

    I have maintained since the beginning that most sites, if folks have left them unchanged, will return to fairly normal (read previous) positions, once Google has resolved it's issues.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Nov 4, 2005 IP