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iWebTools Predicted Google PR - Opinions?

Discussion in 'Google' started by edr, Jan 10, 2007.

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  1. thetafferboy83

    thetafferboy83 Active Member

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    #21
    PR Prediction Tools should be called PR Prediction Toys. They are a bit of fun but that is all :)
     
    thetafferboy83, Jan 10, 2007 IP
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    born2win Well-Known Member

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    #22
    One of my site have PR 3. This tool says cannot determine my current PR and NA for future prediction. Now tell me can trust this tool or not.
     
    born2win, Jan 10, 2007 IP
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    *Mayank* Notable Member

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    #23
    The tool always worked for me!

    Guys..... it's just a prediction and isnt google itself.

    If you say, it predicted PR4, then you also see how old the website is!
    For me it said teen hut site will go either PR 4 or PR 5...
    Trade point site will go PR 3 or PR 4... means kept fluctuating
    Both 4 and 5 now.. hopefully as it looks... TP already 4, TH still updating

    It also showed PR 3 prediction for my directoryall site... but it didnt raise PR because it was started in December... so I am sure it will be in next update. iwebtool's predictions gives me an idea on how I am doing with link building.
     
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  4. thetafferboy83

    thetafferboy83 Active Member

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    #24
    No, it really, really doesn't. The magic crystal see into the future PR balls do not work because PR is scalable, it is not "this is PR1, this is PR2", the goal posts constantly move and the only people who knows where they are is Google. Even entertaining the notion that these PR predictors might work is bordering on lunacy. :rolleyes:
     
    thetafferboy83, Jan 12, 2007 IP
  5. minnseoelite

    minnseoelite Peon

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    #25
    Those PR predition tools use info based on the total number of links reported by either MSN or Yahoo which really does no good since PR is based on the number of links in Google lol. Plus those tools do not take into account all the factors that determine a links PR value such as total number of outgoing links on a page.
     
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  6. mani

    mani Peon

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    #26
    It works for me and give me exactly that results which Google DO.. iwebtools tells me that i have a Predicted PR 4(3.8) with > 70% accuracy and i have got PR4 for my home page and PR 3 in most of inner pages... and thats right, it uses msn backlinks to calculate pridicted PR if you don't have google backlinks or if they are not updated yet.
     
    mani, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  7. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #27
    A tool that is by a third party without privy to the algorithm it is monitoring can never be accurate

    But like in many other applications a 'guesstimate' will sometimes give the result
    If I was a clairvoyant (which I am not) it would be called a 'lucky tool' ;)
     
    britishguy, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  8. NYDAz

    NYDAz Peon

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    #28
    I don't belive in this kind of tools :)

    All the best
     
    NYDAz, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  9. sabian1982

    sabian1982 Notable Member

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    #29
    I don't believe in them either really...

    1. to declare or tell in advance; prophesy; foretell: to predict the weather; to predict the fall of a civilization.
    2. to foretell the future; make a prediction.

    At the end of the day no one can 100% say what will happen in the future - not even a computer! :p
     
    sabian1982, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  10. alekzo

    alekzo Peon

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    #30
    For me was wrong.It predicted PR5 , but I got PR4.
     
    alekzo, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  11. Chios

    Chios Well-Known Member

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    #31
    You can try the google.com/webmasters
    webmaster tools > site > statistics
    (of course you have to be registered with google and have an account)

    it gives a much better prediction/indication (PR is not numerical there) of your sites' pagerank
    but beware the "PageRank not yet assigned" is not always up to date.

    For example for one of my sites, PR was already assigned - with the recent update - but it still reports that there is a lot of PR to be assigned.


    and definetelly a few days before the actual update you can use
    http://livepr.raketforskning.com/ to see the PR you are going to get
     
    Chios, Jan 13, 2007 IP
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    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    #32
    yes it was right on the mark for me - my site now has PR 4 and another with PR 6 :D (didn't pay a cent for any links or seo stuff). So thanks digital point for the suggestions :D :D
     
    Slincon, Jan 13, 2007 IP
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #33
    the tools are a joke, all they do is guess.
     
    oseymour, Jan 13, 2007 IP
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    #34
    The PR prediction tools make an educated guess at best. In fact, a bit of common sense and statistical calculation can be used to predict PR correctly half the time and maybe a bit better. That is why some people claim that it predicted PR correctly for them and other say it didn't. I bet that if you get a large enough sample of PR predictions this tool (and other similar ones) makes then you will find that it is correct half the time. You can do a bit better than 50% accuracy because the number of backlinks and current PR of a site can give you some strong hints about what your PR will be. This is why I said it is nothing more than an educated guess.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    #35
    The iWebTools PR predictor is much better than some of the variations out there - Rusty Brick's tool is particularly suspect (ooh er missus). The truth is that it is very easy to predict that a site will achieve PR1-3 say, but after that the science becomes blurred and there are much more factors than sheer weight of back links. It's probably useful a useful predictor for a new site, but is only a guess.
     
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    sqeeze Peon

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    #36
    Yeah, it's a weird idea to use PR prediction tools - they are based on algorithms that proceed from author's opinion about measurement of PageRank that has nothing common with real Google's algorithm of appraisal that is developing and changing all the time.
     
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    tkilgore Well-Known Member

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    #37
    So far it is just a prediction ( tool ) at best ..I have not seen any predictions from it ..come true .. tends to be on the postive PR side.
     
    tkilgore, Jan 13, 2007 IP
  18. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    #38
    i never believe those pr prediction tools.
     
    Brandon Sheley, Jan 13, 2007 IP
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    #39
    iwebtool was showing predicted pr 6 for one of my sites , it has stayed the same page rank . i dont believe it
     
    trichnosis, Jan 13, 2007 IP
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    pelican Well-Known Member

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    #40
    those PR prediction tools just based on few factors to predict PR.
    Google also specify certain penalties on certain pages / sites which these tools do not have any info.
     
    pelican, Jan 14, 2007 IP
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