I've Disabled the "Advertise on this Site" Link

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  1. bargainr

    bargainr Peon

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    #21
    i removed it for a few days once and didn't see an appreciable difference, I think my traffic numbers aren't high enough for this to make a difference yet (800 uniques/day).
     
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  2. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    #22
    Here are some early stats:

    For the first two days without "Advertise on this Site" and after banning site-targeting, I don't see any major change in anything. The earnings seem to be average, as are the CTR and number of clicks.

    I'll know for sure in a week or two.

    Either way? I like not having that stupid link on the site. The ads look cleaner and I also enjoy not having one ad show up everywhere on my page.
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 12, 2006 IP
  3. tdotn

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    #23
    Tried disabling the "Advertise on this site" link but for some reason, it is still showing on my ads... anybody know what's going on? I went to my account and untick "Include me in Onsite Advertiser Sign-Up" .. is that right?

    btw, been looking at this forum for quite a while, just signed up.. so HELLO ALL
     
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  4. bargainr

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    #24
    hello tdotn, it might take a little while for the change to take effect.
     
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  5. jackburton2006

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    #25
    It takes at least a day and change. If you want to disable site-targeting, email them, and they'll make it faster.

    And welcome to DP!
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 12, 2006 IP
  6. bargainr

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    #26
    Jack - any updates?
     
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    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    #27
    Have been disabled for several days now.
    Does make the adsense ads look a shade better.
     
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  8. jackburton2006

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    #28
    Here's an early observation: clicks have increased by about 10% (more relevant ads, I'd imagine) but earnings have stayed about the same. This, I'd imagine, is because when I had one ad dominating the entire domain, it was because they had outbid everyone for the privilege, and so each click (although 10% less) still paid more. Although the ads more relevant now across the domain, they don't pay as much as the site-targeting ads.
     
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  9. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #29

    to have a cleaner understanding about effect on CTR or no effect
    it might help to know your overall site-average CTR in %

    me too i have a few - mainly picture ads - sites who are on many pages all over my site
    for me however even after a few weeks having those advertisers on my site
    i see no reduction in CTR
    most likely because a surfer surfs one particular page one times
    then another page ..

    hence all first time surfer see that dominating ad only once or a very few times
    then when they return to your site they most likely/hopefully find OTHER content/other topics with other advertisers

    i originally also thought about filtering the few large advertisers covering many pages
    but for above reason i have stopped planning such
    free competition does all i need
    = more CTR ( currently some 5.1% for all February until now site average )

    the only single person wh oever sees such ads again and again when working on the site is the site-OWNER
    hence i started thinking site-visitor and just droped my personal objections since i saw the overall positive increase in CTR/$ during the past many weeks after i made adsense changes/optimizations all over the site according to G's "askthebuilder" tutorial

    in much earlier times i used too small ad units offering too few spaces for more advertisers
    now i use full 3 ad-units units of the largest ones = some 13 advertiser units ( 3 ad units = 5+4+4 advertisers )
    and any uninteresting advertiser among those many is compensated by others who have something real to offer
    during the time with smaller units i noticed that the highest bidding ones often had less interesting offers just from looking at their ads without ever visiting any of their sites
    while in the middle range many offer sound/look quiet appealing

    since G adjusts the prices down if no competition there to next lower + 1 cent
    i guess that the difference between each of them may often be but a single cent - hence it may make little difference whether a click on bider#3 or #7 is made
     
    hans, Feb 14, 2006 IP
  10. jackburton2006

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    #30
    Measuring of CTR isn't really accurate for my site because my traffic is constantly increasing. This month I should surpass 6 million impressions. If I could get 5% CTR I would clear in the 4-digits a day! But I guess that's something to shoot for...
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 14, 2006 IP
  11. hans

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    #31
    before the recent changes i made early january about adsense i was in the range of 2,3-2.4% CTR and now permanently in a different range as mentioned below
    the only difference between now and before is what i outlined in recent other posts ( in brief: to follow the askthebuilder-turorial G offers )

    de-optimized adsense also means far lesser income to hundreds or thousands of other families benefiting from adwords success - to help others makes others financially healthier to become even one day your customers

    hence there are always 2 ways to look at optimization/de-optimization

    if you would have a ink to your websitge somewhere - then you would even get more visitors - but may be that would be too much ?
     
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  12. jackburton2006

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    #32
    I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're saying. What do you mean by "askthebulker-turorial g offers"? And no offense, but in the future I would recommend less rambling sentences. You seem to write a lot but it's hard to "get" what you're trying to say.
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 14, 2006 IP
  13. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #33
    askthebuilder
    is a tutorial google offers on their official google site
    i worte in recent days here in DP forum on another thread apparently

    this online turorial about the domain with same name is G' help to show us how another most successful site drasticaly increased CTR/

    the FULL online G information is sometimes hard to find
    and it may take up to a few hours to read all

    here the link again
    the hotzones with highest CTR are:
    https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/static.py?page=tips.html#17954

    the askthebuilder study is
    "Google AdSense Case Study"
    https://www.google.com/adsense/askthebuilder

    of course you will study at least a few of that domains pages

    i did it at least

    then i sat down
    converted templates for blog
    temlates for forums
    and and worked some 100 hrs on static pages to change all existing adsense placement and ad units

    to instantly raise my CTR from 2+ % to 5+%
    and thus to double the $ as well

    its a ONCE in a lifetime work that earns you finally thosuands of extra $ each year in the future

    Good luck
     
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  14. jackburton2006

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    #34
    It's still early, but approximately a week after disabling the "Advertise on this Site" link and site-targeting, here is my 1-week report:

    Clicks have increased by about 10%, and earnings are up by about 5%. There were low paying days, but for the most part, even the low-paying days were closer toward my average than when I had site-targeting on and was showing one ad throughout the domain. Back then, low-paying days were about 20% lower than average. Now, it's more like 2-3% lower.

    Quick and completely unscientific conclusion: Not allowing site-targeting has increased clicks and profits. There have been no breakthrough days (re: a $5 click inflating my earnings), but rather, just steady, balanced earning across the domain. We'll see if this continues in a month's time.
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 16, 2006 IP
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #35
    I did it too we will see i am not getting a lot clicks .... http://www.historyexplorer.net has about 100 unique visitors a day maybe now it will work :) at least couple clicks :)
     
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    #36
    jackburton2006 -

    Another option you might want to consider, which would probably be more beneficial to your overall earnings, is blocking the specific advertiser rather than opting out of Onsite Advertiser Sign-up in general. This way, you can get rid of the ads you don't like, but without closing your site off to all site-targeted bidders.

    It sounds like this advertiser felt that your site users were a relevant audience for their product. However, if you disagree, you are welcome to add their URL to your filter list. Site-targeted bidders can be filtered in the same way as any other advertiser -- it's entirely within publisher control.

    If you take this route, the pool of advertisers bidding on your site will be maximized. More advertisers bidding translates into a higher revenue potential (which is one reason we always encourage publishers to opt into both image and text ads!). You might find that a future site-targeted campaign is a better fit for your site, and a great boost to your revenue stream.

    -ASA
     
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    #37
    I know about the filtering options, but I have other sub-sites on the same domain, and when someone goes for site-targeting on my site, the ad shows everywhere, overriding all other relevant ads that may have appeared on those other sites. It's simply untenable for me to filter every media buy, and frankly, I prefer not to filter out ads unless they are absolutely detrimental to my site.

    But thanks for the advice.
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 16, 2006 IP
  18. contristo

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    #38
    I've found a small upgrade personally when I took it out. I guess it just seems more less like you're trying to sell something.
     
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    #39
    by the same token, you only have to filter the advertiser's url one time, and they are gone from all your sites... it's no different than if they showed up as regular advertisers, and in fact, when they do show up as non-site targeted advertisers, you'll still have to filter their url.

    it doesn't matter to me whether they are site-targeting or not, they'll get tossed in the filter if they detract from my sites.

    there is still the issue of how you can tell for sure that they are indeed site targeting you... if it's an image ad, you have no way of knowing, except possibly because you'll see zero earnings for clicks... but that can happen anyway.
     
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  20. jackburton2006

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    #40
    You're missing the point. I don't want to filter them out because their ads are relevant to my site, but just to part of my site, not the whole site. But because they've purchased my ad inventory, their ads shove aside even more relevant ads on other parts of my site.

    And it's easy to tell when they're site targeting me -- because their ads show up in all parts of my site, in all ad formats, even in parts of the site that has nothing to do with them.

    I hope that's clearer now.
     
    jackburton2006, Feb 17, 2006 IP