Still waiting for that apology... But I see that you're not adult enough to admit guilt, even when your guilt has been clearly proven. How sad.
LMAO you're so pathetic that you cant even come up with one argument. All you know is "you lied plx" I rest my case, now go and find a child's board where you can insult people and call them n000bs leave this thread to the intelligent people who know what their talking about. Can someone argue in his place? someone with a bit of knowledge as to what's going on in the world? Because obviously this guy has no idea, hell just look at his responses lmao. Not a single intelligent response, even after I give in and beg him for ANYTHING, SOMETHING to contest what ive said and he has nothing... Is that all you're side has? because if so that's pretty weak, there must be someone out there who is intelligent and can argue your side for you. Anyone have any predictions on the next childish thing he's going to say to avoid the topic? lol! It all boils down to either im right, or he truely believes what he says, just has no idea what so ever as to why LOL. Only 3 type of people believe something without knowing why. children, drones, and cult members. By the looks of his responses, my guess is its #1, and if you're going to respond again saying I lied, please dont bother because you just show everyone that you dont know what you're talking about, nor do you have a single educated response to the tons of points and questions I brought up. You are a pathetic debater, so dont even try. The way you repeat yourself and throw pathetic insults, shows defeat.
It all boils down to the fact that you are a propagandist. You made up a lie, that people like you would like to believe, about US soldiers raping women in front of their children, claimed you had pictures to prove it, and you got pwned by Will. Tuck your tail between your legs and take your beatdown. You now have zero credibility.
Pwned?????? lol how old are you??? here you are talking about credibility and you sit here calling me a koolaid drinker and that I got pwned, you have an interesting measure of credibility lmao 3 of the many pictures werent real. 4 of the pictures were on cnn. Just because you guys didnt know about it, doesnt mean it is not real. You cant blame you being morons on other people. Just read the news or pick up the news paper, its kinda hard to miss the front page or is the UN spreading propaganda too? You can flash these facts right in your face, or strap you to a chair and force your eye lids open, and you probably still wouldnt get the point. People are just too busy nowadays with their superficial life that they have no idea about what's going on with their own country. And what have you supplied to this argument? DUHHH umemployment rate is down! so you are wrong about this war! Does that mean I pwned you when I showed you how that doesnt matter? And when I showed you that america holds over 90% of the world debt? And that gasoline reached an all time high in relative terms? And how america went from being at a surplus for the first time in a long time and through ONE Presidential term, america became further in debt than ever in history? Or is that a lie to? Or is it a lie that more innocent civilians has died than the enemy? or are they just all terrorists who deserve it? What about the children? I guess they deserve it too? I guess the 80% of iraqi's who are against america being there are also just stupid "koolaid drinkers" right? But you know, they should be HAPPY that america is liberating them by slaughtering them one by one! I guess the people from katrina who's losing their motels in april because the country cant afford to pay for it anymore, I guess they deserve it too. Or the people who are now barely getting by because they can barely afford to pay the increase in taxes, or the people who have no healthcare and have medical bills so large that it will take their entire life and then some to pay. I guess its all worth it to kill some towel heads right?
The ones with the soldiers with the painted faces are probably fake according to some article I read after will pointed that out. The rest are real, and were on major media news. Here are a few more pics. Or is this all hollywood actors in some allaborate act of propaganda? http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_147151_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_146617_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqi_injured.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/anglo_am_victim1.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_145674_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/basra_girl203ap_body.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_146925_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqiterrorist.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_147115_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq5_mar2003.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq23.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq2_2apr2003.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_147578_1_6.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/liberatediraqi.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/WOUNDED-SON.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/illegalarrests9.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq0_30mar2003.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq15_30mar2003.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraq13_30mar2003.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/Iraqi-wounded-children-con.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/the_enemy.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/5a492ea0.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/5a8aaf00.jpg http://www.robert-fisk.com/5b028ce0.jpg You people really disrespect the innocent people that are dying every day. It's disgracefull. I am not a religous man. But it doesnt take a religous man to have morals. I feel sorry for iraq, not just because they are being unfairly slaughtered, but because they are being slaughtered by a country that doesnt even seem to know why they are doing it or even the details behind it.... It just goes to show in this conversation, I pointed out many reasons why this war is screwing over both iraq and america, and you guys have supplied not a single bit of anything that counters what I said.. all you have is "you lied" or "you're a koolaid drinker", do you have any idea how rediculous that sounds?
How where those people injured/killed? Was it crossfire? Was it by insurget terrorists? Was it US troops? Were they killed for entertainment? These are the questions that make those pictures valid and arguable. If it was simply crossfire/colatoral damage, then you have no argument. Where is the rape photos we were promised? I got a link here for you +++++++++++WARNING EXTREMLY GRAPHIC+++++++ ++++++++++++++YOU DONT WANT TO SEE THIS++++++++++++ http://www.dualpartisan.com/t144-because-too-many-have-forgotten-part-2.html But oh yeah, we evil americans put undies on some terrorists head...
Oh give me a fucking break, you show me 1 innocent guy being executed compared to the thousands and thousands of innocent iraqis being slaughtered, I really doubt that 40 000 innocent civilians died in crossfire and if they did, then that just goes to show that american solders are just shooting at anything that moves. It's not hard to realize that you are shooting into a town full of women and children walking in the streets. But you believe whatever the hell you want. This is very sad....very sad.... You want to learn about the iraqi rape? just do a little check on google news, its not very hard, or watch cnn about the un investigations. If any iraqi's read this, I assure you that not all americans are like these two idiots, I know a few, my wife included who actually know what's going on there, and feel compassion for your people.
Henny, did you ever provide a source for thsese claims? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=718759&postcount=66 Thanks.
Well, I was dead wrong, the comaprison I was referring to was New Orleans having less damage than Mississippi, not really fair to compare an entire states damage with 1 city's damage. Sorry for the mis-information. It was not intentional. I geuss this means I am only right 99.8% of the time now
does this mean you got pwned, and you lied, and you are spreading hatered and propaganda, and that you are a koolaid drinker?
Right... "The ones with the soldiers with the painted faces are probably fake according to some article I read after will pointed that out. The rest are real, and were on major media news." "3 of the many pictures werent real. 4 of the pictures were on cnn." "Ok let's assume all those pics are faked, including the pics that cnn,cbs fox etc has reported on from the infamous prison cells in iraq and also the pics that american press has refused to publish because of how graphic the pics are" See, not only do you not know about what's going on with your own country, you dont even know what's going on in the argument you are participating in. And you talk about my credibility? Look if you have no idea why you think this war is beneficial, then please tell me so I can stop wasting my time arguing with people who dont know anything about what they are arguing about. Besides the fact that I find it disrespectfull that you are for killing innocent people, it is even worse that you dont even know why you are for that idea. According to you im wrong and spreading propoganda, but prove it? I supplied facts and information from sources such as the news, government sites, and even from the cia site, so I guess they are just making up "whacko theories" right? What have you and will offered to this thread to back up your side? that's right, nadda, nothing. But you know, I guess you and will won this argument by saying I got pwned and that Im a koolaid drinker and various other things you would hear in a kindergarden class.
No prob. I'm not trying to trap you or prove you wrong (this time). I'm honestly interested in seeing where it says that the rest of the Gulf Coast has been more successful than New Orleans in their cleanup and rebuilding efforts.
Well I think its time I finish debating, here is an overview to those who dont feel like reading the whole thread: what I have posted for my side: -Images showing slaughter of women and children -internet news links -cia.gov sources about the economy and the current debt crisis -various statistics from pages provided by the government -information from cspan and cnn. here is what the other side has posted: You lied You are a koolaid drinker You need to strap a bomb to yourself You got pwned You spread whacko ideas You spread propoganda You spread hate and 1 video of a white guy being executed. insert other remarks here Decide for yourself
okay sorry i didn't take the time to read all 9 pages.... here is what i think of it: america started the war on terrorism after 11 september. okay i agree that al-quaida needs to be stopped. but bush has done a lot of wrong things also. like the war on iraq. there is absolutely NO proof that saddam has weapons of mass destruction. he knew it for sure; it was the reason of the war! and now they want to make an islamitic (do you spell that this way?..) country a democratic one in just ONE year. it's impossible to erase a country's history, a people's way of life in such a short period. also, who said a democratic policy is better? right: america did. they think it's the best and that the whole world needs to be democratic. what's next? make iran and afghanistan democratic? then north-korea? and then the whole world? you know how much money this costs???!!! i do not believe that america spread out the bird flue... imo that's bullshit, it just started inn asia and hasn't crossed the ocean yet... it's true that america saves a lot of lives, invest a lot of money to the 3d world, etc..... but i don't want to be an american, that's why i don't live there and never will. the problem is that america is coming to ME (and the rest of the world). who said that america is the best country and has the RIGHTS to attack nations that do not comply to their rules or way of life? those billions and billions and billions of dollars invested in this kind of.. warfare could better be invisted into america's OWN problems, like poverty (the gap between poor and rich is sooooo!! big) or overweight problems. with america i mean the politic/bush etc.... not americaNS my last opionion in this post: america doesn't rule the world. bush isn't the most important person in the world. it's just another country with a culture that's DIFFERENT than others, NOT better!!!