As I thought, you are going by heresay and don't have a clue to what you are saying. Did you learn this in collage? (Same one that gworld went to?) Tell that to God, He is the one who says He is a jealous God, He doesn't want anything before Him. Hey, we agree on something!! woo hoo BTW, if someone talks to you about Jesus, are you polite enough to say you aren't interested in Him? Or do you think we should not be allowed to even say something to you? (curious, since you said "don't bother me")
Jelaous means in this case that god is eager to win back his people and leaves everyone with the freedome to chose it or not. God's never tolerant. "you shall not worship any other gods beside me" - is a commandment. Tolerance is the way to the abyss, which reminds me of the story of the swines, when the evil spirits left people into swines and they heeded straight to the abyss and into the ocean.
Exactly, god is never tolerant, that's why its written in american history books that christians have led some of the biggest slaughters in history, I guess we should wage a war against all christians right? oh wait, that wouldnt make sense considering bush is on a "mission from god" in his own words.
You miised the point again. God says: "leave it all up to me, I'm the great avenger" Do you constantly ignore the main messages? but we're are also ordered to stop murderers, thiefs and seperate them from the society and punish them (read the Bible to find out, how restitution is handled), so that they can't do that anymore. But nobody is supposed to kill, chop off heads etc.
Look, debunked, you may not agree with everything I am saying, but try to leave the insults out of it. I haven't insulted you and it would serve our discussion better if you could refrain from insulting me. It just makes you look bad if that's all you got. So, drop the "collage" and "heresay" talk. I NEVER said the Jesus was preaching violence. I said that the BIBLE was violent and intolerant. You can't deny it and the bible is a well read enough book (yes, I DID read it) that you don't need me to quote you from it. The violence and intolerance are there for all to see. As far as the conversion process goes. I don't have a problem with people talking to me about Jesus. I politely tell them I'm not interested in learning any more about christianity. Do you think I'm some sort of monster who will bite the head off of anyone who even discusses the topic with me? I will politely tell them I am not interested once, twice or even three times if I'm in an "even" mood. What I do NOT like is the CONSTANT preaching. If I tell you that I'm not interested, then shut up about it already. Anything more is just annoying propaganda and I am (as already mentioned) not interested. At that point, it becomes an intrusion. I have known quite a few people who "found god" at some point in their life. The problems that develop ALWAYS stem from THEM not being able to know ME anymore because I won't convert. I remain friends with them until that happens, but it always seems to happen, sooner or later.
So you're saying they let their own people murder, become thiefs etc etc? coulda fooled me considering if you compare their murder rate per 1000 people to america's. Or have you not done that yet? Does that mean america should be the next to be bombed? And if you are right about the lawlessness of iraq (which you are not) I guess that justifies killing almost 40,000 innocent people and taking everything they have.
We saved millions of lives? Can you quote some sources on that? And you think that festering quagmire of a cluster fuck we are in in Iraq was a good idea? People like you are why the rest of the World hates us.
The Bible is all about reconsilliation with God and the world and everyone, while the teachings of quran is all about wordly power, using fakes as its religion.
Dont worry man, Im sure I also speak for ccole when I say I dont hate america or americans, unlike those guys, I can see fault in individuals instead of blaming it on an entire country.
Can you serve two masters? - tolerate murderers? thieves? If you say yes to that then you're a liar. And if you serve yourself then you're selfish and a liar and if you believe that seeing is believing then never put your finger into the plug, you wont see the power but feel it. And if you believe that you're above it all, well then, good bye, it's your choice.
I serve NO MASTER. I do not NEED a master to tell me right from wrong or punish me for not following them. We are all responsible for our own actions. You can't hide behind a god and call yourself good because you serve them.
Not everyone has to believe in a god. I used to be a catholic growing up. And I was tought that god created a man out of dirt on the ground, then from there he ripped out one of his ribs and created a woman. To me at the time, that's all I knew so I believed it. Then science came into my life and I saw explanations that actually made sense, I studied and realized how silly that whole story sounds compared to science. So I guess it depends, not everyone feels the need to rely on a "master" to explain life, some of us would prefer to go with proof and evidence over a book that was written before we even realized that the world is round. Mind you, I do believe it helped in its time to form morals, but nowadays with a controlled society, laws, and our evolved mental state thanks to science and the internet etc I see no reason for me to rely on a book to obtain moral standards through fear, that's what laws are for
What's the source of your education? You're right when you say everyone is responsible for his/her own actions. One thing I always find interesting is, maybe not you in this case, but when someone claims of being an atheist, they have very often more faith hiding deep inside and are just dissapointed of the handlings of the so called servants and worshippers. - And to this extend I can agree with you.
Man you got owned and you did not even know it. Go away. You've walked into a discussion you know nothing about, save yourself the humiliation. You don't even know what the "collage" reference is about do you? Did you not see the mention of "Gworld"? You really have no idea that this misspelling was completely intentional. Get with the program. This coming from someone incapable of spelling a proper name with a capital letter "will" (W). Moron... Owned, smacked and freaked.
A thousand years is just a day. Maybe you missed that or you were not taught about. You can find this it in the scriptures. When you are in good moral standings, nothing's wrong. Something is still left from this book in your life, maybe not on the surface, but has a major control over your life. Praise the Lord. - You're not alone
oh man I got "owned" because I didnt use a capital when spelling "will". It's funny that in this argument, that's the only kind of crap you guys have come up with. Imagine if this was a real debate? You people would be laughed at the second you and your racist friends say "owned" ,"koolade drinker", "nazi" , "strap a bomb to yourself" or the many other defences you band of racists have to facts That's fine with me though, it makes my part in this debate much easier.
Don't be so angry. It is almost the end of the month and you will be receiving your welfare check soon. You can be all smiles again and thank the great Bush for giving you your house.