you guys continually accuse me of believing and saying things that I have never said, its really getting old. I never even mentioned oil once in this entire thread. And why would america be in ashes? and from who? and where did you hear this? Would it be from iraq's non-existent wmds? Of course there has to be proof, you think america would just let other countries destroy countries without a valid reason? Remember what america did when the soviet union tried that? Or do the international laws only apply to every country except america?
Educated guess: someone within the broad Islamic community. Who can you trust? And how do you know that you can? Understanding the culture, or rather the religion, is the key. The obsession with us and Israel. If you believe for one second, that the war is the reason behind the hatred towards us, you are so wrong.
I understand that the war isnt the root of the hatred and again i didnt even hint on that. Everyone has the right to their own beliefs, views and oppinions about anyone sort of like people hating the jews or french, that is their oppinion, doesnt mean they need to die for it. On top of that other countries hate america too, does that mean every country who doesnt like america should die? They posed no threat at all to america, as you can see america can just walk right over iraq if done right, so why all the fear when they have nothing to attack you with? It just goes to show in this war, look at what the iraqi's are using to defend themself with and you are honestly going to sit here and say that they are a big threat??
The next big threat could easily come or have come from Iraq or people over there if we allow fanaticism to continue growing freely. And about other countries: I've been to quite a few. And to quote one line of truth from the movie "Munich": "Germans don't like Arabs. But they hate Jews. That is why they tolerate the Arabs." It's not just the Germans. Anti-semitism is rampant. Germany, France and other European nations as well. We are creating a balance being the most powerful nation on earth. It's not about being popular with the other ones, it's about taking responsibility that comes with our status and doing the right thing!
Well, the next big threat can come from china, japan, canada, mexico, russia, iran, north korea (biggest threat) etc etc etc etc etc anyone can be the next biggest threat. Americans kill more of their own people per 1 thousand than most of the countries america has deemed evil in the world. Why not focus on the real problems instead of hiding behind them by attacking other countries and making up reasons for it? Like I said, laws are here for a reason, I dont care how big and bad america thinks they are, even they are expected to do things the right way, and unfortunately they have not. I am not anti american, I am against what bush has done and is doing, like any other person who is for law and not chaos. The long term consequences are so harsh that I cant imagine how long its going to take to recover, now your children will have to pay for the debt/interest all because one president rushed things instead of doing it right.
Because there are thousands of young Islamic men being prepared to become warriors for the cause AS WE SPEAK. They may take a while to be ready, but would you want our kids to have to deal with the same shit as we do or have done???
So you are justifying destroying an entire country because a fraction of them are extremists? Because some guys from a completely different country destroyed the world trade center? Or is it as long as you are in iraq you are an islamic extremist who is going to kill americans?
Destroying, liberating, call it what you want. http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/03/16/100wir_analysis001.cfm http://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr13.php http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/&/images3/2004_war_photos_october_3/destroyed_bicycle.jpe http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.032005C.jpg http://www.amnesty.org/images/resources/iraq/iraq_destroyed_house_200x140.jpg http://www.cursor.org/stories/14-iraq.jpg http://www.worldpress.org/images/0320baghdad.jpg http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.091305M.jpg http://www.brusselstribunal.org/images/rubbles.JPG http://www.brusselstribunal.org/images/rubbles5.jpg http://www.brusselstribunal.org/images/rubbles13.JPG
Look at it long term. The next generation will be a lot better off than this one ... I know it's easy to say that from the distance, but seriously: don't you think their kids have a right to live a life of freedom?
How is it going to be better? America is now in debt by $ 8,837,000,000,000 (which may skyrocket if bush can ammend the debt limit like he is proposing) to foreign countries over a lie, who do you think is left to pay that huge tab? or the interest alone? The next generation. Who is stuck paying the crazy gas prices? The next generation. How can you not see the problem with this? or at least foresee any future problems with this? I think its none of america's business about their culture or how their children grow up personally, or how you justify killing the children because they grow up with different values.
Yeah, and they also have the right to have their limbs attached to their body. I think the Iraq war apologists (the few that actually still exist) are hilarious. So out of touch with reality.
The next big threat could easily come or have come from Africa or people over there if we allow fanaticism to continue growing freely. Because there are thousands of young African men being prepared to become warriors for the cause AS WE SPEAK. In conclusion: WE MUST INVADE ALL OF AFRICA TO STOP THEM FROM HATING OUR FREEDOM!!!!!
If it prevents their death and suffer, then yes. Like I said, civilians are being punnished for what their leader did. He is in a cell while the innocent ones are being killed down.
NO OTHER GROUP IN THE WORLD PUTS AS MUCH ENERGY INTO KILLING JEWS AND AMERICANS AS MUSLIMS That's why!!! Dammit, don't make me yell at you
That is unfair to do in an argument, I could easily post the link to the "chop off heads in Allah's name" video again ...