It's because I'm black isn't it?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by KalvinB, Oct 25, 2006.

  1. #1
    http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=239115&GT1=7701

    Silly me. All these years I thought he was a Jew and that Jews wanted him dead.

    Maybe the film will make him out to be an Uncle Tom, or maybe it was the Uncle Toms that wanted him dead. Being racist against your own race; there's an interesting topic to tackle.

    But no, we'd rather turn the greatest story about love and sacrifice into "Crash" on the Cross.

    "Sometimes I think we hang people on crosses just so we can feel close to somebody in this big cold world."

    It's might be controversial to the KKK but mostly rediculous.
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    They do things like this because they know Christians won't riot, burn down embassies, murder nuns, torch cars, buildings, homes, carry signs that say behead those who insult Jesus.

    If they wanted to impress someone, make a film about mohammed and how he was homosexual! Nothing to worry about, right? :D

    BTW, welcome back!
     
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  3. TWalker

    TWalker Peon

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    Display a crucifix in urine or present Jesus as a homosexual and thats art.

    Display the Ten commandments in a public building and thats a crime.

    Lib/ACLU spinsanity.

    But on the subject of race I have a pet peeve. Hollywood is obsessed with only one minority race: Black folk...period. Hispanics, primarily Mexicans are the largest minority racial/ethnic group in the U.S. yet riduculously underrepresented in TV programming/movies etc compared to blacks.

    It makes no sense if its a numbers/quota game for equal representation. Where are the token Mexicans on every single program? There are plenty of great black entertainers but I think Hollyweird is obsessed with them.

    Of course the typical lib response is: what do you mean by them? :eek: Whats the matter you don't like blacks? :eek: You racist? :rolleyes:

    Does anyone else notice this? Whats your take?

    My take:

    I think mainly its a PR game/reperations deal by Hollywood leftists to change opinion. Libs assume everyone hates blacks and therefore the racist population must be reprogrammed with millions of positive images of blacks doing lotsa great stuff.

    Yea? nay?

    But don't we need reprogramming on Mexicans too? nay?

    If so is it ok to program millions of negative white male images in order to speed up the process of equality? I notice most all super evil folks in Hollywoood are white males. And every single evil child is white preferably blond. Hollywood serial killers?> always white men. Even though white males are actually less likely than other races to be serial killers.

    Just my take.

    A black Jesus? Cool with me. I live next to Apaches and on the rez they have a huge old catholic church and they worship the Apache Christ. I think its beautiful.

    But if they start telling me he lived in a TeePee, hunted Buffalo, carried a bow and arrow and was crucified cause he was Native American....I'm outta there....:p
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #4
    It looks like there's no balance.
    According to your post and it sounds very reasonable there is more space for the movie making industry than expected.
    Great!
    Looking forward to see more good movies.
    Perhaps there should be three competing, equal in size and funds, companies.

    Hollywood
    Kinte-Cinema
    Burrito-Motions :D
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    It really shows were your at , when you think having a black Jesus is an insult or something derogatory
     
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    Can someone explain why would be a big deal to Christianity if Jesus was black?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    How on earth could you possibly derive that from my comments? Christ could raise the dead, make the blind see, heal the sick and perform miracles. I have no doubt he could have made himself any color he wanted. My point was that people have no problem creating controversial films about Christ, but if they want to do something challenging, might consider doing a film on mohammed being homosexual.

    Ah, now I get it! I mentioned homosexual. Now I see why you were upset. Never mind :D
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    That statement infers that there is something negative to react to doesn't it?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    My comment was:

    The fact that Christians won't riot, burn down embassies, murder nuns, torch cars, buildings, homes, carry signs that say behead those who insult Jesus is not negative at all. It's quite true.

    Now try creating a film that portrays mohammed as a homosexual.
     
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    I think the point was why Christians would even be offended in the first place by Jesus being black

    Or that Jesus being portrayed as a homosexual and black as being similar :confused:
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    That may be ferret's point, but it wasn't mine.
     
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    You said

    Im trying to figure out what the insult was
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Reference to "behead those who insult islam"
     
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    I think Kalvin was saying that the movie was making it a race issue. Jesus dying had nothing to do with a "race" but the human race.

    Sounds like the movie will be stupid if they try to change the reason behind Him dying.
     
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    #15
    Yeah, I got that but for your statement to even make sense, you have to first believe that Christians would even be offended.

    Otherwise your Islamic comparison is just a random post that has no relation to the original post.

    I STILL don't get the following responses:

    I don't think it has even been proven that Jesus was white in the first place...and as I said I still don't get what these film makers are doing wrong to "Christians" by portraying Jesus as black

    Well, that is what the article says but the movie is still in production and there is nothing that says that "was the reason behind him dying"
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    The point I was trying to make is, these are things Christians "will not be doing." In other words, they will not be holding up signs that say "behead those who insult islam," along with the other things mentioned. Drawing upon a parallel of what we've witnessed over the past year in islam. Not that Christians are actually insulted, but rather that they will not be doing these types of things because someone creates a movie with a different perspective. In other words, it is popular to do such with Christianity (divinci code comes to mind), because there are relatively no consequences for doing such. Try doing the same with islam, and the things I suggest "will not happen" with Christians, become the norm for muslims.

    Perhaps, despite numerous clarifications, I have left myself open for some unperceived form of scrutiny, but that was not my intent.
     
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    You are right there, except proven part. His lineage would make him more arab in appearance than white or black.

    This is what I am refering to, that would be the part that doesn't line up with the Bible. If you make Jesus black, most of the people around him should be black (except the Romans) I would have no issue with that unless they make it a "jesse jackson" type of film.
     
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    Its only a different perspective in the US
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Jesse Jackson has movies?
     
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    Are you really going to make me explain that??

    Rob, the inference was to making everything a race issue like jesse jackson does. Not that he makes movies.

    Jesse jackson is as bad, if not worse, than a kkk leader. He stirs up controversy and makes everything a race issue. He has followers who are in fear and also think everything is race motivated. He keeps them under a glass ceiling that no one wants to break. AND he makes millions doing it.

    If you want to see less racism in the US, get rid of guys like jackson. His hatred would not be tolerated if he was any other color of skin.

    (I am so sick of racism and those who promote it!!! - now I am frustrated - thanks rob!)
     
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