It seems muslims are motivated my greed and matiralism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Seqqa, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #21
    Hehe...That makes my day...hehe...what a load of crap...hehe...too funny...
     
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  2. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #22
    Pathetic.

    The same God that gave sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, life to the dead and resurrected from death.
     
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  3. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #23
    That's according to you.

    We say it's all a lie.

    No sane person believes that God has to kill himself first to save others from being burned in hell

    But as I say, you are free to believe in your superstitions, just don't be an idiot and join the Atheist gang (that hates you too) and lie about Islaam and Muslims to make yourself feel good.

    :cool:
     
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  4. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #24
    Because that is the easy way of not being able to handle the truth. If you believed it was the truth, you wouldn't be a Muslim.

    No Gangs buddy. Why do you think I am lying about Islam? Is it unacceptable to point out flaws in your religion?
     
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  5. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #25
    Like I said, you are free to believe in this:

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    This is not the thread to go into detail why this is all a lie.

    You do it all the time.

    And you have been refuted many times.

    But you just seem to plug your ears and continue in your erroneous ways.

    There are no flaws.

    On the hand there are serious flaws in your religion.

    So lets not open that can of worms.

    :cool:
     
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  6. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #26
    Alright, prove it. I would like to see one of those instances.

    Are you sure?
     
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  7. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #27
    There are so many, but we will take one, and then we will end it there.

    You own words:

    I'm going to pick 1 thing in this "loaded" statement, and that is racism (not that I cant address the rest of the lies)

    This is easily refuted:

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O you who believe, verily your Lord is One, and your father [Adam] is one. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab, or of a red man over a black man or of a black man over a red man, except in terms of taqwa (piety). Have I conveyed (the message)?” They said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has conveyed (the message).”

    According to another hadeeth, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Those who boast about their forefathers should desist or they will be less significant before Allaah than the beetle that rolls up the dung with its nose. Allaah has taken away from you the arrogance of Jaahiliyyah and its pride in forefathers, so a person is either a pious believer or a doomed evildoer. All the people are the children of Adam and Adam was created from dust.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3890; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 3100; and in Ghaayat al-Maraam, 312, it was said that al-Tirmidhi and Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah classed it as saheeh).

    You see?

    :cool:
     
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  8. Bushranger

    Bushranger Notable Member

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    #28
    Aah, when someone has spent their whole life reasoning the fallacies of their religion how do you open up their minds to see beyond that? One can only hope they grow up to realise it is all their own doing. They are the God they worship.
     
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    #29
    It means that human is by nature in haste.
     
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  10. betaturn

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    #30
    Why do many Christian priests convert to Islam?

    Former Christian preacher - Yusuf Estes

    [video=youtube;KfzFYEOVDgM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfzFYEOVDgM[/video]

    He is now an Islamic scholar.

    Abdurraheem Green Former Christian - Now an Islamic Scholar

    [video=youtube;uIURcB-YdNA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIURcB-YdNA[/video]

    Sheikh Khalid Yasin former Christian - Now an Islamic scholar

    [video=youtube;zvmTd6AWTaM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvmTd6AWTaM[/video]

    Joshua Evans former Christian Minister - Now an Islamic Scholar

    [video=youtube;qofGS4UhjAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qofGS4UhjAI[/video]

    Ccontinued...
     
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  11. betaturn

    betaturn Peon

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    Dr. Jerald Dirks, a former Christian Minister - Now Islamic Scholar

    [video=youtube;dOZSrPF5GNo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZSrPF5GNo[/video]

    Sheikh Hamza Yousuf a former Christian - Now an Islamic Scholar

    [video=youtube;HAPdXDlLdXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAPdXDlLdXk[/video]

    Dr. Jeffrey Lang former Athiest- Now a Muslim and writer of various best selling books on Islam

    [video=youtube;TcNOaePZT68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNOaePZT68[/video]

    OMAR DEXTER former Athiest - Now an Islamic Scholar

    [video=youtube;mCqaYQxK_q8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCqaYQxK_q8[/video]
     
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  12. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #32
    As a contribution to P&R I turned Israel's brilliant statement into a template. Crush your opponent with unbeatable logic!

    You are very welcome.

     
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  13. Law-Dude

    Law-Dude Active Member

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  14. betaturn

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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Apparently it is just their culture, and we should be respectful of it ;D.
     
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    #36
    I think its disgusting and not something to be laughed off.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Yah, but nobody really cares what you think.
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #38
    I wouldn't be so sure. If it were so then we wouldn't have you and your brigade running behind me all around the forum. ;)
     
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  19. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Alternatively, maybe I just get my kicks out of beating on the mentally handicapped. I know it doesn't speak well of me, but what does it say about you?
     
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  20. luke12

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    #40
    On the subject of racism:


    "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied." Bukhari V4B52N137

    "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's." ~Ishaq hadith 243

    "while we were sitting with the Prophet, a man came and said, "who amongst you is Mohammed?" We replied, "this white man reclining on his arm..." Al Bukhary V1:63

    "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."


    So, it wouldn't be fair to call me a liar based on my previous claims
     
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