It seems muslims are motivated my greed and matiralism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Seqqa, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. #1
    I was on YouTube before and watching a video about a luxary house.

    I than came across this comment.

    I took a moment, to think about what exactly was running through this muslims mind. When he made that comment and you can see pure greed for and I quote...

    Then it all makes sense seeing as most normal human beings marry and have one sexual partner, most muslims are motivated by having the possibility of having 72 virgins.

    I don't know about you but humams are a materialistic object, and to be motivated by having 72 of them is just pure greed and excess.

    What are your thoughts?
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2011
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  2. mohamedsafiq

    mohamedsafiq Active Member

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    Hey Islam only allowed you to marry 4 women and only motivated to marry the widows so be sure if you know all things about muslim and islam before making these type of posts.some peoples may do like you told but they just call themselves "muslim" and violate the rules of islam.
     
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  3. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    Only marry 4 WTF? Thanks for verifying the greed and excess part of my post. What's wrong with just loving one woman, or is that just not enough do you need MORE, MORE, give me MORE!! :p
     
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  4. Misato

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    Good thing is muslims have women. In America they prefer goats. Lots of goats :D
     
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    BreezeTR Well-Known Member

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    #5
    the reason of wedding more than one woman in the past is that most of men lost their lives in wars, currently one man is wedding with one woman
     
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    The Quran says marry 2, 3 or 4 but if you cant do justice than marry only one. You might say why is polygamy allowed in Islam?
    The reason for this is the ratio of male to female in most of the parts of the world is less than one. If all the men marry one wife than many of the women will remain unmarried. The population of female in the current age is rising very rapidly. So what will happen to all the women who cant get husband?
    It is because of this reason Islam has allowed man to have more than one wife if he is capable of doing financial and social justice to all of them.
     
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  7. Misato

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    I will convince Popo to convert to Islam but with a condition to wear a thin foil hat.
     
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  8. mohamedsafiq

    mohamedsafiq Active Member

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    Hey i think you're a short minded guy can't understand the whole concept,i already told that islam only motivated to marry widows it's mean giving life to widows.most of the muslims are just marry one woman and a real muslim won't do prostitution and he won't have sXX with other women.
     
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    Breeze Wood Peon

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    Isn't it as possible to be selfish saving everything between just two people and their immediate family as including only 4 others or 72?

    It is what is in the heart that counts not the numbers for a true religion....
     
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  10. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #10
    Another poor attempt by the OP.

    1. Mistakes in title of this thread. (this tells us a lot about what is to come)
    2. The 72 virgin thing is a myth, a total fabrication, a lie by heretics.

    Case Closed.

    :) :D
     
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  11. luke12

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    Materialistic indeed. Here is a glimpse of what Muslims expect in heaven:

    - Rivers of Wine, Milk and Honey.
    - Women or Houri- lots of them (Non-menstruating) = sex.
    - Young boys
    - Beds
    - Trees and fruits
    - A palace for each person
    - Lots of Food.

    Materialistic indeed. Any intelligent person would understand that all of those listed above are earthly desires and not spiritual. These are only the imaginary desires of a man
     
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    betaturn Peon

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    Humans are made materialistic by nature. But humans will get what they want only if they restrain themselves from evil desires and lust of this world. What is in this world is nothing compared to what is in the heaven. Allah says He has made Human in haste.

    A hadit about the last person to leave hell fire: He is in the middle of hell and paradise, but he is quite happy that he is out of the hell fire, as a human being he is greed, he wants more, he sees a tree at a distance, he says Oh Allah please allow me to go under that tree so that I can sit under its shade and eat its fruits, and drink from the water which that tree is being irrigated with. So Allah will allow him to go there. After reaching there he sees another tree more bigger with more fruits, he asks Allah to allow me to go under its shade. So Allah will tell him Oh son of Adam, what will satisfy you? If I give you this, you will ask for something more. He says oh Allah I will not. That tree will be good enough for me. I am not going to ask for anything else. So Allah will allow him to go, so he will go under the shade of other tree. Then a much larger tree appears to him. As soon as he sees that tree, he says Oh Allah please allow me to go under that tree, Allah says didn't you promise that you will not ask for more? Oh son of Adam what will make you content? He says oh Allah I promise I am not going to ask you for anything more. Just that tree. Allah will allow him to go to that tree. Now the trees are getting better as he is getting close to the paradise. When he gets to that larger tree, he sees the gates of the paradise. He can not hold himself he says Oh Allah please allow me to go and sit under the walls of the paradise. I don't want to go in there I just want to be beside the walls of the paradise. Oh son of Adam you have been promising me that you will not ask for anything else and I have been giving you, are you going to ask for something else after that? The man says no, that is the end of it. I will not ask for anything more. I just want to sit under the gates of the paradise. Allah allows him. So he goes and sits under the gates of the paradise. When he gets there, he can hear the voices of the people of paradise. He hears their laughing, talking and he becomes so jealous. He cant hold himself, so he says, just allow me to go through the gates. Allah will tell him oh son of Adam, what will please you? If I give the equivalent of earth and everything in it inside the paradise will that satisfy you? He says oh Allah, yes. So Allah will tell him I will give you that and similar to it and 5 times of the earth. So the man says Oh Allah that is enough I am pleased. Allah will say I will multiply that to 10 and everything that will satisfy you and your eyes.

    That is the lowest level of paradise. A person burning in hell fire for millions of years and then he enters the paradise gets an equivalent of 10 times of whatever in this world and everything he wishes that pleases him on top of that.

    So, the levels of paradise is like a pyramid. The largest population on the lowest level with less and less people as the level go up.

    So a man is by nature made that way, and this is the test put into human beings. If you cant restrain your desires in this world, then you don't deserver heaven in the afterlife.
     
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  13. securesite

    securesite Well-Known Member

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    #13
    I kind of throw up over Mohammed's versus in the quran. 700 years after the bible and what lines. Three words: International Sex Trade forced by the false Imam.

    Time to switch to a different religion one with some roots.
     
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    So, you're saying the human materialistic desires on earth will also be the same as in heaven? Maybe you have a different concept of heaven because only the clean spirits rise to heaven. The body is made for the earth and its "materialistic needs" such as food, drink, rest etc.. and does not accompany the soul to heaven/hell.
    My point was that all the promises made to Muslims in heaven are basically materialistic earthly needs of the body. Do you really think that is how God wants people in heaven? Eating, drinking, sexual interactions ?
     
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    mohamedsafiq Active Member

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    allah says "the world is a place where i examining you.This world is not your permanent place.if you believe me and follow my prophet i will give you heaven" and one thing i need to know what is the meaning of heaven? the answer is "Heaven which is the place give you whatever you want without so in heaven you no need to have money and no need to have support of others to obtain everything"
    Note onething, god really wants people to worship him in world itself. so the heaven is the place for obtaining the rewards given by god.
     
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  16. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    Lol , you got to love lines like this one . Why did he made it in haste ? Was he late for an appointment or was he running out of time ?
     
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    IsraeI Peon

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    #17
    The aim is not paradise, but rather to worship God, this is the purpose of life, the reward is paradise.

    Now, I find it funny that Christians are only good at talking about everything less than God, is this because you are embarrassed of your God? After all he did get used and abused and nailed on a cross:

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    This is your God? :D :D

    Who exactly is this guy fooling but himself.

    The people of paradise have no needs, everything is just for pleasure.

    On the other hand the people of hell will have needs.

    Don't teach us our religion.

    Learn yours first, because you have no clue about your own religion.

    --

    :cool:
     
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  18. luke12

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    I wonder sometimes if you ever think about what you're writing before reaching the keyboard?

    The aim of any believer is to be within the presence of God = paradise. Worship God? Did Mohammed promise the "worship part" first or did the houris, wine, palaces come first?
    Explain to me when and how are you going to find time to praise and pray when you're having sex, drinking, eating and roaming around in your large palace?
    Also, how are you going to eat, drink, have sex when your body is not present? You are a soul remember?

    Welcome to reality...


    What are you talking about? Our whole Christian message is about Jesus Christ and salvation.

    Same mockery phrases that the Jews were saying when he was on the cross for our salvation. "If you're the king of the Jews, save yourself!"
    The precious blood on the cross is the infinite love of God towards us.



    Right and God watches along those filthy pleasures?

    You mean do not ask questions that we cannot answer.

    "Do not ask about matters not apprehensible, matters, which if made known would disturb you." Al-Ma'ida
     
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    most of Islamic leaders included our prophet had more than 4 wives. some Muslims mentioned these verses as their evidence for banned more than 4 for Muslim men

    it was about Orphans not free women, beside it mentioned "those you possess" meant slave women that hasn't any limit also.
     
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    You got it all wrong.

    The purpose of life is to worship God. The reward is paradise, the reward is not our aim, but its something given to the believers.

    I cannot do nothing about the fact that you do not worship God, nor the fact that your fictitious God will never give you anything in this life or the next, this does not mean you have to be jealous and join the Atheists in their ignorant bashing.

    You are similar to a black man that has joined the klu klux klan.

    You are free to believe that God came to earth in the form of a man, and decided to commit suicide to save you!

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    To save you!

    :cool:
     
    IsraeI, Jan 23, 2011 IP