If you want to blame someone for stupidity the name is browntwn Evidence that no Hamas fighers were in the UN-run schools during the bombings: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...40-die-Israel-bombs-safe-haven-UN-school.html http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053455.html http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10111.shtml http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10156.shtml http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10160.shtml Does the evidence make you feel stupid? I really hope it does. Going back to the original OP....reports on the use of white phosphorus by the IOF (Israeli Occupational Force): http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10171.shtml http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5447590.ece http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_white_phosphorus http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/20091111392884765.html http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/29a4a80bfe83f3693d77c487a4291f61.htm
I guess that is your way of saying Hamas used the UN school, but left before Israel responded, or on a different day? What a joke. You support Hamas who endangers the lives of civilian Palestinians with recklessness. It is a pretty sad that you want to make a big deal over IDF's use of a legal tool and yet want to absolve Hamas of any responsibility for their tactics which you damn well know risks civilian lives.
you can know now why they did not allow foreign reporters, because they intended to use white phosphorus against civilians, and other weapons some of them are experimental and no laws about their usage yet (like DIME) because these weapons are still not available, but US of course need to test its new weapon, so they sent it to Israel, to test it on Gazzan people, for sure there will be a need for both international, and independent investigations, White phosphorus is legal and illegal depends on its usage, and your own judgment and later on investigations, using it against armed enemy to create a cover is legal, but using it against civilians is illegal, since Gaza is a highly dense population area, the usage of WP then makes it against civilians, and the excuses of "creating smokescreen" are not of any value because there are other alternatives that can create better smokescreens. as for being a chemical weapon or not, many consider it a chemical weapon: US intelligence classified white phosphorus as 'chemical weapon'
Is this a joke? Your army banned all foreing journalists to enter Gaza and now they serving what they want! Israel seeks airwave supremacy Get serious!
Have you actually bothered to read the reports where the UN have officially denied that any Hamas fighers were around in the UN-run schools before, during and after the bombings? As I said earlier, if you don't know what you are talking about just keep quiet and don't make yourself look stupid with the insurmountable amount of links provided above. Same advice as above. It is not "me" who is making a big deal over the IOF's use of white phosphorus. The links I have provided make it clear that it is an illegal weapon.
Mads Gilbert and Erik Fosse told that there is a very strong suspicion that Gaza is now being used as a test laboratory for new weapons . They are testing new weapons in Gaza
We both agree that Gaza is a mess. Those couple of journalists that died already caused a whole lot of noise. What do you think will happen if Israel allows journalists and then accidently kills one of them in an airstrike?
Sure, sure... Anywhere in world journalists are allowed to go 'cept when someone have something to hide. Keep the journalists out and than start to making up fairy tales... Btw is journalist killed by bombing worth much more than kids killed by bombing?
the hamas using phosphorus rocket too.. what do u guys say about that?!?!?!?!? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3656311,00.html
if this is true, I say what did the illegal state of Israel expect when they kept using white phosphorus since 1982 against civilians in occupied Palestine and in Lebanon? and what did they expect since the beginning when they decided to occupy else land by force? this shows that the resistance is getting more powerful, and that this operation the terrorists in Israel started against women and children has proved it's complete failure, and it also shows that Palestinians do have WP but are not in rush to use such horrible weapons like the Israelis, they waited the international community to say a word of condemnation when Israel used these weapons in Lebanon and Palestine, but it did not come, so they gave a warning by firing one shell now, and I m sure if the terrorist regime in Israel kept using them against Palestinians, Palestinians will use them against them. I hope this news are not correct, no matter how low is the enemy Palestinians should not go to its level.
LOL That would be true if we had a base in Cuba. Here we go: Why are US so concerned about Georgia, which is 2 hours drive from me? Why are US so concerned about Ukraine? Which is on our borders too. You are going to say that you are helping them, etc, and all that usual "democratic" statement, then why since you started helping them they are getting only worse? Its you who are making things harder , thousands miles away, Im sitting at home, ask any person in ANY country of the world, whose nose is bigger You just starting the new cold war, which already started with our ships/planes travelling near your border and your ships/planes coming to Georgia. If thats what you need, then its gonna happen. How am I gonna disappear if I like the country I live in? Them chechens you are talking about wanted to create a new Islamic country not only on their territory, which is Chechnya, but on the whole North Caucasus, Im not chechen, neither russian, and I wouldnt want that, so dont make statements like that, if you know zero about it, I live on north Caucasus, and where do you live to know it better? I guess CNN knows it better than me then, as always, but later on it comes up that CNN lies, just like it was with Georgia in August. You still didnt answer the question is Gaza a part of Israel like Chechnya a part of Russia officially since 19th century?
The US imprisons enemy combatants, they don't simply disappear (some mysteriously) off the face of the earth in the thousands. If Israel used Putins' tactics the number of fighting age men in Gaza would be dwindling, and not just through them dying in war. They'd disappear on the way to their job, or to the store, or just be arrested at their home and never be seen or heard from again. Ask Georgia and Ukraine. We're not forcing them to be friendly with us. Not having the USSR arounds means more people and governments can make their own decisions. Worse? You mean by Russia turning off their gas or bombing the shit out of them? We're starting a new cold war because Russia wants control of the Caucases and Ukraine so it can tighten its hold on European/Asian energy at any whim? I was suggesting that we take a look and compare the tactics used by Russians against those that they deem to be terrorists. Putin deemed the rebels to be terrorists, so whether or not Chechnya is a part of Russia, does it justify the absolute demolition of their cities and the police-state-like disappearances of all their males or the use of deadly gas in a hostage situation in Moscow which killed more than twice as many innocent Russians as Chechens? Putin sent a clear message to the rebels, you fuck with us, don't expect us to be sentimental about the sanctity of life. Don't expect us to tie our own hands on account of PR repercussions. Don't expect that we will not play your game and that we won't even do it better.
Once again Israel doesnt own Gaza. So no comparison can be made. There will be soon noone to ask, cos they are both at a revolutionary state. Strange, US tactics didnt work in there. nah, the gas happened just now and the bombs were in August 2008, by the way - georgian bombs. Look at the earlier events, type in youtube "7th november Georgia" and you will get a clear picture of their "democracy". lol, Why Russia doesnt give a damn about Cuba/Mexico/Latin America? Should we? North Caucasus - officially is Russia. The rest part is independent since 1990, so no clue of what are you saying, shall we come to Cuba then? Like swapping help, ergh? I welcome you to pay for the ukranian gas bills, we arent gonna pay for it sorry, not a state of Russia. Once again Israel doesnt own Gaza. So no comparison can be made. Chechens were russian citizens, and its up to Russia to deside how and what to do whithin its borders, not you. About the game. The game was started by you, we did not come to your borders, and now I hope we will respond fully adequate. And the last part. I noticed everywhere where the US heads up, there starts a war, strange, I prefer no war, than a "democratic war". Maybe once the terrorist Rice is gone something will change.
My comparison was about tactics to fight terrorism. Lay out a logical argument of why a comparison can't be made between tactics used to fight terrorsism whether it's under control of your government or not. I'm sure this isn't want Russia wants huh? They don't care if there are free and stable democracies on their border because they already have their hands full committing genocide inside their federation. I know what I'm saying. Abkhazia, South Ossetia/Georgia, Nagorno-Karabakh/Azerbaijan. Chechnya was independent once too but Putin showed that he didn't like that much either. I reckon he thinks a lot of stuff happened in the 90s that he would like to reverse. It's funny how things coincidentally happen in Russia regarding energy. If the government is trending towards nationlization of energy, then maybe you'll just coincidentally get hit with bogus tax and fraud charges if you're the head of a big privately owned energy country which forces a government takeover? Or maybe during some unseasonably cold winter weather in Europe, Russia decides to make good on some energy debt which effects innocent countries. I bet everyone who depends on Russian energy will keep the cold winters in mind next time they have to negotiate with them, huh? You're right it's up to Russia to decide how to kill people. I'm just saying, Putin has shown he has absolutely zero tolerance for islamic fundamentalists. He's like the cop in the movie, when confronted with a bad guy who's holding a child hostage in front of him for shelter with a gun at their head, Putin just shoots them both. Most of the wars you're thinking of were probably started by soviet backed regimes that launched aggressive campaigns in order to enslave the people and feed the communist parasite.
Please dont' play dum those are chemical weapons and every one knows that,like we didn't see it or we don't know Zionists and their weapons
Israeli savage never stop they used to test new weapons on civilian like they did in Lebanon war too , I hope all their criminal leaders Olmer,Livni and Barak get arrested
The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City Bomb Screenshot When white phosphorus lands on skin it burns deeply through muscle and into the bone, continuing to burn until deprived of oxygen. Among the places worst affected by the use of white phosphorus was the UNRWA compound in Gaza City, at which Israeli forces fired three white phosphorus shells on 15 January. The white phosphorus landed next to some fuel trucks and caused a large fire which destroyed tons of humanitarian aid. White phosphorus Civilian victims from Gaza Screenshot: a Victim of White Phosphorus White phosphorus is a weapon intended to provide a smokescreen for troop movements on the battlefield," said Cobb-Smith. "It is highly incendiary, air burst and its spread effect is such that it that should never be used on civilian areas. Screenshot of White phosphorus dropped on Gaza Buildings
PROPAGANDA. This is a smoke bomb. The only use of phosphorus was in a form of phosphorus mortars, and Hamas use in those mortars too.
Ohad : which picture do you call a propaganda ? Maybe you call propaganda White phosphorus Civilian victims from Gaza pictures ?
This thread is one big propaganda. You can't know where and when those people got killed. You can't know from what they got killed. The picture of the bomb (the last pic) there is a smoke bomb that just looks cool and scary so he posted it. PROPAGANDA.