Israeli's trade child murderer for bodies of two murder victims

Ok Mr pro ethnic cleanser.

Show me where I support terrorists, where I support Iran or Syria, where I support or have 'blind admiration' for 'Saddam'

Show me where I am not on the side of 'freedom'

Or do you like to simply talk out of your ass? Do you need it powdered again?

 

Both sides are as bad as each other in my opinion, there will not be peace between them any time soon.

 

True that.

They both kill kids, and they still will.

 

Sadly it's true buddy, the violence will never end out there.

 

you don't know the difference between killing and murdering.

 

Both are same thing, Killing = murdering.

 

Maybe my English is not so good for describing that.
I meant:
Murdering, for example, is bomb yourself in crowded areas.
Killing is kill someone accidently +\ during a fight.

 

Hi,
Well yea, still not sure what you meant..

But hey, I know about your feeling.
Good friend of mine got killed on Madrid Terror attacks..

 

Murder is murder.... Accidently killing someone is still murder but to a lesser degree.

 

No it is not. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being. I could kill someone in self defense and it would be legal, moral, and not murder. Words have meanings and you don't just get to ignore them.

And yes, kids are killed on both sides of the conflict, but for very different reasons.

Israel kills children, but it is not their intention. If possible, Israel would not want any collateral damage. It is those accidents and side effects that cause Israel most of its bad PR. On the other hand, many people don't have any problem with Israel killing terrorists.

The Palestinians, represented by groups like Hamas, Hezbullah, PFLP, PLO, Islamic Jihad purposely try and kill civilians, including children. It is not an event they seek to avoid, it is their goal.

In addition, those terrorist groups operate in civilian areas knowingly putting kids, women, and innocents in danger. They use those civilians/kids as a deterrent to try and keep Israel from responding to attacks. Both sides are aware of the PR effect of the death of a child. That is why Israel seeks to avoid them and the Palestinian terrorist groups play them up and do not act to avoid letting a child be killed by Israelis.
[Please note, that I think most Palestinians do love and try to protect their children. I am speaking of the groups like Hamas and Hezbollah who are all too happy when Israel kills a child as they get to make hay of it.]

Here is a small illustration which speaks volumes as to why and how the kids in this conflict suffer:

 

You need to stop blaming the media who publicize the facts of a murder and start to blame the people who commit the murders.

Samir Kuntar is guilty here, not Der Spiegel.

Until you understand and accept this principle of personal responsibility, you are doomed to misunderstand the world as a whole.

The Muslims now have to live with this animal. They have to try to sleep at night, knowing that this foul beast is living amongst their children.

They now have their hero. Let them live with him.

It is sad that so many people feel this way.

I see this too and I am sickened by it.

I concur. This isn't about race or religion -- this is about freedom.

The Islamists want to destroy freedom and force submission to their death cult.

They are willing to commit any act, no matter how vile, to further their goals.

I concur. It is morally wrong to accept terrorists and child murderers.

Those people who play the "moral equivalence" card are simply denying the existence of right and wrong. They are attempting to make beating a 4yr old child to death the same as eating an ice cream cone.

This is not true. Hell, it is not even logically possible.

In any comparison of this magnitude they are bound to be differences.

Overlooking these differences isn't just ignorant, it is immoral.

browntwn, thank you very much for this clear and comprehensive explanation of a seemingly complex moral issue.

 

I will join with Ping here. I have nothing in my mouth to say, and only a deep, deep sense of grief for that little girl, her father, her mother, and anger, in surfeit far too much lately as it is. No construct of my mind can conceive even an approach.

Thanks, Will, for bringing this out. I had no idea of this before, and though it is as dark as it gets, I think it is important.

Our world is cracked. I mourn for the chasm between our promise as a species, and our shortfall in making good on the gifts we have earned, by our millenia walking this earth.

 

I truly believe the world is self correcting. And with that hope I keep walking what I consider a right path, in the expectation that it might just save me from the hell humanity is creating for itself. I think Israel needs to rethink it's position on capital punishment, sometimes the monsters need to be slain for the betterment of everyone.

 

Just saw this, confirming what someone said, that an additional little being was lost to this murderer - the other daughter. What is worse,

So another human being in living hell, having accidentally killed her young one.

I don't understand. I have compassion and feelings for both the Israeli citizens desiring to live their life in fulfillment, peace and security, and for the generations of Palestinians desiring the same. I fear all Israel has done with this exchange is to invite more tragedies on this order - what incentive to keep hostages alive? To not engage in the same kind of atrocities as this animal, in seeking concessions from Israel?

 

What if Israel announced all future trades would only be for live prisoners? I agree, wouldn't it provide more incentive not to kill Israeli prisoners of war?

 

This is all an area I am admittedly weak on. Piqued by this thread, I read more, and was astounded to see the long practice here - thousands of prisoners for a soldier or two. Israel has apparently early on made it policy to do this, hoping to instill loyalty in its troops - "no man left behind." I find this admirable, but misguided, personally.

 

Well so much for all that hoopla...



Nice illustration. I've got one of my own

Video of Israelis using Palestinian Kids as Human Shields

Such men using even an 11 year old girl as a shield - no balls whatsoever.

Enjoy!

 

I agree. Wouldn't it be possible they could set free a palestinian that killed an Israeli soldier, and in return get the body of the Israeli soldier he killed?

If I were a soldier, I would not want my dead body returned, if it meant setting free someone I died to fight against.

 

I think too much is being discussed about Israel, Palestine, Zionism, Islam, Hezbollah, and Hamas.

The bottom line is this - it's wrong to kill a four year old child. Whoever you are, whatever may be your religion, and whatever may be the principle you stand for. So, I say, they should have castrated that bastard. As simple as that.

 

I think we can all pretty much agree on that.

Yet some believe one side are a bunch of angels and the other is the devil. Both sides are hateful and horrible - end of story.