Israel needs nothing from Palestine. I don't see the Jews on this forum whining about Palestine's failure to recognize Israel. It is simply one of the answers to the question, "Why isn't Palestine considered a legitimate country?". Is that the story you tell your kids? Santa Clause is more credible. Not even worthy of a response.
as you may already know or not know, the world is not limited to DP forum, if you are really interested in this issue, you would have checked the article which I posted, in which it shows how the government of the so-called Israel is always whining about Palestine not recognizing Israel, and even if you took it on the DP narrow level, you will find that so many Zionists are whining about this and also starting threads to whine over it, Palestine is considered as a legitimate country, and that's why governments of the world including US which its foreign policy is influenced (or even controlled) by else than American people - are moving towards the two states solution.
By who? Yes, everyone seems to want a two state solution except for Palestine. They seem to like a one state solution.. Palestine.
I found it particularly satisfying how you skipped all the links to sources and never commented on even one, never answered a question etc. Very telling. What about the ethic cleanings of Arabs from their land when Israel was created, did the Jews recognize their "right to exist" and accommodate them in their new country? or did they just ethnically cleanse them by massacre and terrorism? Then occupied and then oppressed them, after they left and were killed off from the (Jewish only state). You're funny. I particularly like your definitions. When Palestinians defend from oppression it's "retaliation", when Israel starts a war for no reason, it's "defense" and 'justified', laughable and pathetic at best. Your definitions could be applied to the massacres of native Americans, we did "defense" they did "retaliation". You first likened Israeli actions with racism, your more subconsciously aware then you let on. I think we already concluded if Israel would stop what they are and have been doing in my previous post then there would be no rockets, I think subconsciously you know what is happening as can be seen above in bold. "Hard" you say, yes it would be "Hard", even if they did stop firing rockets. If the Palestinians allowed themselves to be oppressed and did not defend their rights from the Israeli oppression then selective foreign policies of the USA are the downfall, hence it would be "hard" but not impossible for the USA to support ongoing Israeli aggression. You know as well as I things have to be done Israels way, it'll be a new excuse - You wanted democratic elections but you didn't like the result, case in point. It should be Palestinians asking Israel to acknowledge their "right to exist" and their right to have rights that other humans have. Why does an "unrecognized country" Palestine have to recognize Israel? Who does Israel need the recognition of an unrecognized and terroristic government? (As is claimed) As you can see most of the civilized world does not nor never agreed with the occupation nor Israeli expansion, the trouble is militant Jews in Israel and their government do not want peace at all, they have had many offers even from Hamas but Israel wants not to negotiate but to dictate the terms (otherwise there would have been peace), that's why there is no peace, and why do Israel want dictate the terms? to continue expanding it's a Zionists dream. What was the excuse for the occupation and oppression before Hamas existed? remind me. As much as you want to blame Hamas they were not around when Israel's behavior was as it still is today. Oh you don't like the fact that those Jews were uprising against someone just trying to help them? Don't you think those Jews were evil to do that? They were Jewish Terrorist Militants (I believe was the correct terms by the Nazis). Lol, I was being sarcastic. Only idiots buy this sort of Israeli propaganda. If you feel so strongly then sign up to the military and die for Israel lol Yes they are building a nuke from their plants that they want to generate electricity, so that they can bomb Israel 'once' to get about 100 (illegal) Israeli nukes back - Get real. If they wre building one, It's defensive in nature to stop America and Israel invading or attacking them.
Don't really see it as much shock, i mean organs from dead bodies without family permission, 19 years ago.... OMG </generic reaction>
That's the point, it goes like this. Do a massacre today, commit genocide today, do whatever you like today. Do not admit anything 'today' because there will be "uproar". Admit it in 2029 (if pushed enough) and it's no longer shocking anymore.
Interesting analogy. You notice that battle is over, and they arent launching rockets into neighboring cities. Agree. Palestinian ties to world wide terror organizations would be a remaining outstanding issue. Throw that on the list, and you could turn hard into impossible. Because they want recognition? They don't, unless Palestine wants a two state solution. Wake up toothpic, you are back to crack smoking. Every negotiation has two sides, and as usual, you can only see one. It takes two to compromise, and aside from disputed lands, Hamas cant even acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Who wants to dictate terms? Wake up man. Wiki it. It is pretty black and white. Israel makes Iran deny the holocaust and say they want Israel wiped from the face of the earth? Damn, I knew their propaganda machine was good, but would never have guessed it was that good. You have any proof? LMAO. Like waving a gun at a cop. Why would you call your Muslim brothers in Iran idiots?
If you take that video as your proof, then no wonder you always come across as an ignorant, pampas dork. If you missed it there already is an admission, but of course not quite the one you wanted. Hopefully the people (which by the way is not ALL Jews) are punished. My guess is there is a handful that new or that were in charge telling others what to do. Flame away, since you will miss the obvious due to the blinding hatred towards the Jews.
He didn't want to feel left out. I mean, a chance to impugn all Israelis or Jews is just too hard for any good Muslim to pass up, ehh gauharjk?
I had posted the news earlier and were already trying to discuss it but as you know as long as it is isreal everything is OK for them you could see the same people running all though the forums crying and yelling that how barbaric Muslims are, if Arabs did the same with any dead isreali who said that this video is a PROOF? did you read the news? there was an admission ONLY when one of the their OWN employees admitted it, if they knew that it had stopped since 2000 why didn't they let anyone know ? and what do you mean by 'not the one you wanted' do you really expect isreal and come out and say that yes it has been murdering Arabs for organs ? the isrealis who despite the live streams of WP on tv denied that they used it ? and do we know how many Platestins from oragns were sotlen and from how many (if any) isrealis organs were stolen ? this news is proof that isreal did steal organs from Palestinians, all those who were raising their noises were doing so for a reason [/QUOTE] and neither did you want to feel left out come and share your mourning of how anti-semite we are as we have problems when isreal kills people and than steals organs from them ... really pointing that out is a horrible thing to do .. and how is that you are equating isreal and Jews in a single line ? Jews are people of Book and I believe any God fearing Jew will never do such an act or support the deplorable actions of isreal which break all moral, ethical and religious values
Anybody up for a fresh Palestinian chopped liver or perhaps an Israeli specialty - a medium-rare steak from young Palestinians? Bonappetite
After the so-called Israel admitted, still debunked and browntwn are asking for a proof, admitting in case you do not know, is the master of all proofs, not that there was no proof before, there was many, but if you do not see in the master of proofs a proof, then no wonder you were not able to see any other proof before. one commented that it happened like 19 years ago, does that make it ok, and not punishable? what if a criminal murdered a beloved one for you, and that murderer been caught 19 years after committing his crime, would you tell the court and judges then, "oh! it happened 19 years ago, forget about it and move on!" denying a crime or a terrorist act, then admitting it later after long time pass and it can no longer can be hid, does not mean it is the only crime, since its illegal establishment in 1948 till now, the crimes did not stop, they are not limited to organs stealing which also did not stop 19 years ago, it is still happening till this day, obamanation you are mixing, but now you are not only mixing "right to exist" with "recognition", now you added "legitimate" when all the world ask for two states solution, it means Palestine has a right to exist, this is one, when Palestine is declared by an official capacity, then other countries of the world, can recognize it, or not, that will be a decision of each country, and can't be forced by anybody else, though some can bribe, threat with economic punishments ..etc to make a country recognize another country, as happened in Israeli case, where many countries been bribed to recognize this illegal entity, let me know if you need proofs about this points, I will gladly provide them. and the last is legitimate, according to international law, Israel is occupying else land by force, and also violating its conditions for admission to UN, which makes it an illegal state, and this is why they tried to buy Palestinians national rights, and of course this is why they are using force to make Palestinians give up these rights: btw, the resolution above should be also applied on Zionists too, those of them who do not wish to live in peace in Palestine, should go back to where they came from, Poland, Russia, Germany, Ethiopia ..etc
Is there some International law or UN resolution against eating Arab/Muslim organs? What number is it? Is it non-binding?
I think its resolution 68373, but ask Imad he is a world renowned expert on international law and the international community. oh no. This organization is a bad joke on the expense of humanity. Not only the GA and the security council, but also the other minor councils such as "the human rights council" is a miserable political circus. Can a place where the voice of a backward feudal medieval dictatorship like Jordan is equal to the voice of the glorious United states of a America or the advanced modern state of the Netherlands be taken seriously? So, I always say that Israel should withdraw from the UN.
Now now. Without the UN there would be no Israel, though I'll grant you the organization is a circus. Regarding Palestinian cuisine, does it taste like chicken?
when chaos, browntwn, and obamanation are out of logic, they resort to ridiculing and insults as usual, the main purpose of course is to spite, your ridiculing and insults does not bother me and I think does not bother others at all, because these methods are screaming that you have nothing better to say, and in it, there is an indirect admission that what been presented by others does make sense, and more importantly, is truthful, unlike what you presented, which after been refuted, you started to act as you act now, and of course these methods are being used by you to try and silence others who do make logic, and who have other debating skills than ridiculing and insults, because you hope that the other would find you too silly to even bother and talk to you, so they would be silent, and then you would act as if you won a debate with these ridiculing and insults, while it is true that you are too silly to even bother and talk to, I hope that you know that you are not the reason why some others are posting, they post for those who might be interested in knowing more about these issues, I do appreciate that you are helping in this, and I appreciate that you at least tried before resorting to these childish methods, the problem is not only in your bad debating skills, but also, the truth is not at your side, else you would have showed it.
This is the longest English sentence ever recorded in human history. Congrats Imad. مبروك! Why you say that? the UN "voted" for the establishment of Israel indeed. But Israel would have been founded also without the help of the UN. The UN also never did anything to protect Israel from its neighbors - for this we had to rely only on our incredible brains and valuable allies - the west and above all the USA & France. Since its establishment, the UN had what we call in Israel "the automatic Arab vote" that makes every resolution against Israel pass. The UN has become a place where all the "moral" and "righteous" countries like Saudi Arabia and Sudan remind the world that Israel is the real problem. Even though between 2005-2009 there were 9000 rockets fired on Sderot, the first time that it is mentioned in a UN document/resolution of any kind is in the Goldstone "fact finding" (LOL) mission ....... So far, the UN's "human rights" council has issued 11 resolutions: 7 of them are against Israel, 3 of them are against "blasphemy of Islam", and 1 about some minor thing in Africa. Look for the members of the "human rights" council and you will know how come. Do you see Ultimate Survival on the discovery channel? I just adore this guy (also watch the related videos).
Fair enough but legitimacy, especially in the birth of a nation, is an important battle to win, and the UN helped push that over the top. Palestine is facing the same problem right now. Well I did agree it is a circus. I actually like watching Qaddafi ramble on. Chavez too, blaming the bourgeoisie for everything while he robs his people blind and destabilizes the world. They love him in the UN and gave him a standing ovation in Copenhagen. Aside from the circus like aspects, its important for every country in the world to have a place to get together and yell at each other. Most of the time, I am thankful they are completely flaccid and impotent. Yeh, I know. Human rights council chaired by some of the largest human rights abusers on the planet, and Obama want's in. You know they've lost it when, aside from the Israel/Palestine conflict, people are butchering each other by the thousand in Congo and Rwanda and they could give a shit. No censure, no statements, nothing. Well, I'm sure that once Obama gets there, all the Arabs will come around and embrace Israel. The Africans will stop killing each other, and we will all get along. Nobody will any longer push their own agenda, and the all of the worlds poor will come out of poverty. I get hard on just thinking about it. Hallelujah.