Israelis killed Palestinians for organs

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by new, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    How could it be? Where are all those organizations that work to save the human rights? Did they read what was written today in newspapers about yet again another crime against human beings and their right to decide…If you are asking "decide what", then continue reading...

    Sweden's daily “Aftonbladet” published a report that said Israeli troops killed Palestinians and harvested their organs. The article headlined "Our sons are plundered for their organs," said Israeli soldiers harvested the organs of Palestinians after seizing them from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

    The report detailed how Israeli soldiers detained young men and after they died in custody returned their bodies with organs missing. The newspaper quoted several Palestinians as saying Israeli soldiers kidnapped their sons and stole their organs.

    Interviewed by the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, on Wednesday, journalist Donald Bostrom said he wrote the article to push for an international investigation into the allegations.In his article, Bostrom discussed the case of Bilal Ahmed Ghanan, 19, who was accused of throwing stones at Israeli soldiers during the first intifada against the Israeli occupation.


    http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/PoliticalNews/en-US/128952356413328012.htm
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3763958,00.html
     
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  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I hear the Jews use Muslim and Christian blood to make matzah too. I think I saw some Jews selling Palestinians organs on ebay.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    this is one serious allegation. i do not think it is true. if it is true then palestanians can present a couple of bodies.
     
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  4. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    Why guys? this thread was dissappearing from the first page without anybody feeling it important enough to say anything about this crap. The ultimate insult to new, nobody really paid any attention to this junk. Anybody with a little brains knows its junk. I guess the anti-semite new will have to thank you now for keeping this crap alive :)

    So now I have to make my stand:
    1) What you call a "report" is a two page article bringing ghosts from 1992 to life. The only "evidence" are the allegations of the palestinians. Additionally, the jews who were arrested in New Jersey are mentioned since some of them are accused of trading organs are also mentioned in the "report". What is the connection between a 1992 event and the recent arrests in the USA? Its clear! Although not said explicitly, you make the link! IDF steals organs, orthodox jews sell it in NJ in 2009. The jews are capable of everything, didn't you know?

    2) Sweden's foreign ministry denouced the article as well as their embassador in Tel Aviv.

    3) A close Swedish friend of mine told me that Sweden's daily “Aftonbladet” is actually to lowest cheapest thrash kind of tabloid. The newpaper of the Swedish intellectuals, "sydsvenskan", published an article about this "report". Even if you don't know too much Swedish, read the title and u'll get the spirit of what these guys think of “Aftonbladet” : http://blogg.sydsvenskan.se/snallposten/2009/08/17/antisemitbladet/ :)

    4) 18 year old kids don't trade human organs. This is a lie. The truth is, during my service in the Khan-Yunees refugee camp (Gaza Strip), after we chased the palestinian kids, butchered them and took out the organs, we made some really cool barbeque instead .... ;)

    5) As pizzaman said: if a body is returned without organs, there will be pictures of the body with the missing organs all over the web. The Palestinians take pictures of all smashed bodies as something to jerk off about. They are crazy about pictures of blood to educate their children with. So where are the pictures?
     
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  5. imad

    imad Peon

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    This tactic browntwn, in ridiculing something to dismiss it, is not so effective these days, except maybe among idiots, they may read your post and laugh, but people who use their brains, like the journalist Donald Bostrom would want to investigate it:

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    Palestinian Bilal Achmed Ghanan, 19, was found dead and dismembered


    source
     
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  6. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    a source from an islamic site for an article whose author is annonymous? :) even worse, it is not XHTML valid page, my Chrome browser displays it like a hobby website of a 12 year old! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    Imad, I strongly reject the allegations.
    I insist that during my time in the IDF we were just BBQing palestinian livers with some great potato bree and fresh vegetable salad. It was delicious. Palestinian livers are 10 times better than chicken, believe me.
    look it up in http://www.tayyar.org and u'll find it for sure.
     
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  7. imad

    imad Peon

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    #7
    do you remember?

    anyway, that site mostly quoted the Swedish report, other sites quoted the same:

    http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/08/19/82276.html

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1108604.html

    I hope there will be an investigation by an independent organization.
     
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  8. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    me too. although the evidence from 1992 would be kinda hard to establish. But if the organization will invite major (reserve forces) chaostrivia to testify, I will admit about the barbeque of the livers. It was delicious.

    BTW the picture you posted is how a body looks like after an autopsy, not at all after removal of internal organs, my medical doctor wife said. :)
    I say its from Mexico. Or maybe Chechnya.
     
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  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    no offense, how smart is your wife!

    somebody should tell them, he was dead cos they shot him.

     
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  10. ChaosTrivia

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    Smart, and beautiful!

    OK. True. I have nothing more to say in my defense.

    Israel is a mafia that trades Palestinian organs. This was at the very essence of the Zionist scam.
    We take innocent Palestinian children - then we murder them. Then, we dissect the whole body as if we were making an autopsy, and take out the organs. At a later stage, we sell them to (anti-zionist) Orthodox jews in the USA to trade them further for transplantation. It is a miracle that they discovered only one case! Our mafia have taken the organs from dozens of thousands of Palestinian children and immediately transffered them to the rabbis in New Jersey. But thank god the media is controlled by jews, so only one case managed to "slip" the tough censorship: it ended in a Swedish tabloid.

    Now I finally understand what people mean by saying:
    "The world is supporting the Palestinians with all of their hearts, retinas, kidneys, and stomachs!"

    :)
     
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  11. imad

    imad Peon

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    you did not have anything, to say I do not have more, the best thing you said was agreeing that there should be an investigation by an independent organization, I hope you will support the calls for one.
     
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  12. ChaosTrivia

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    Why investigation? it is clear that Israel is taking Palestinian organs regularitly. I admitted myself. Burn Israel! Ban Israel!

    Say, Imad, if you had a million dollar. You would be willing to bet 1,000,000$ that god exists and the quran is the word of god, right?
    Interesting, how much will you be willing to bet that this story is truth? 1,000,000$ . 500,000$. 999,999$. What is the possibility that it is bullshit, 1 in a million? 50% 50%?

    remember, that EVERYTHING you know about the story are 2 pages in a swedish tabloid. All other places on the web quote the same 2 tabloid pages.

    I am just trying to find out what is the minimum amount of information from independent sources you need in order to be convinced beyond any doubt.
     
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  13. imad

    imad Peon

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    Why investigation? silly...

    to prove that Arabs and/or Muslims like me tend to believe anything that discredit Israel without first verifying ;)
     
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  14. ChaosTrivia

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    No. Come on Imad. Answer my second part.

    How sure are you in the authenticity of the reported events, given that the ONLY place where they appear in the whole world are two Swedish tabloid pages, and the events reportedly took place in 1992? 100%? 99%?
     
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  15. imad

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    I m not sure, that's why there should be an investigation.

    but, I tend to believe the journalist more than Israel, for some reasons:

    1- similar incidents and previous lies by Israel,

    the one that came to my mind when I read this report was the use of white phosphorus against Lebanese civilians in 1982, Lebanese, Arabs in general, complained to UN, and humanitarian organizations about that, nobody listened, untill a journalist there, reported it, first he been ridiculed same way you and browtwn did, later he been called anti-semitic as usual, but at the end Israel admitted it cos more and more were demanding to investigate it,


    2- I do not think Palestinians have the ability to bribe journalists, they hardly can pay governmental employees salaries, often months late,

    3- also, any journalist, is so very careful when it is regarding israel, cos first thing he will get is accusations of being (ANTI-SEMITIC) as you often see browntwn crying here, without even explaining why he thinks so, so most prefer to avoid it, even when sometimes they know it is 100% true.

    4- The lack of organs donations due to the Jewish customs, while allowing "organs trade" makes the person ask, where do they get these organs from? knowing that they killed Palestinians for much lesser reasons, it would make sense to kill a Palestinian when there is a shortage in the organs supply, when all they see $150,000 per kidney alone.

    5- similar previous incidents like in 2002:

    6- previous complaints by Palestinians:

    source for last two quotes
     
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  16. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    imad, we see that proved every day by bigots like you.

    Bostrom and the newspaper’s lawyers have been careful to not make any specific defamatory statements that could expose them to lawsuits.

    But repeating unsubstantiated allegations, juxtaposing them with unrelated — but suggestive — facts, and leaving the reader to draw his own defamatory conclusions is a a time-honored technique of scum like Bostrom to smear their targets.

    imad, I don't blame you for eating this stuff up. It is written for people like you. I do feel bad that you have no idea what freedom is, or what investigative journalism is. Anyway, what blood type are you?
     
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  17. imad

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    If demanding an independent investigation is considered bigotry by you, then I am a proud bigot :D
     
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    imad is demanding an investigation. too bad I couldn't read a single line of your "source". Told you, I don't read Islamic/leftist/pacifist/anarchist sites. I read information and news sites.

    2009.08.12 Jordan Madaba A pregnant woman is shot four times in the head by her brother for marrying by choice.
    2009.07.16 Jordan Amman A young man stabs his married sister and smashes her head with a rock over 'immoral behavior.'
    2009.07.09 Jordan Amman A 27-year-old woman is stabbed to death by her younger brother for bringing dishonor to the family by getting pregnant.
    2009.07.09 Jordan Amman A second woman is stabbed to death by her brother, who finishes the job with a rock. Her crime was talking to a man.

    but that? that's ok! maybe one of the guys who did it is imad? no investigation is needed: this really happened. and that's just the last month. only in Jordan.
    Maybe another investigation is needed: what are the circumstances that makes a society become so backward and barbaric?

    More indications that can illustrate the conditions in which such barbaric actions could take place: there was a guy on this forum who claimed that homosexuality is a "problem" that should be "fixed". so lets say:
    2009.08.29 Jordan Amman A gay man was butchered with a knife by imad. he was praised by the crowds and declared: "I fixed the problem!"

    Damn. It feels great to know that we are not the only savages on earth. Look at the jews! they steal organs and sell them in America. Zionists and non-Zionists co-operate for the first time in history! - the common task: making money from Palestinian organs. Investigation Now!
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    No imad, stop playing dumb. It is not some feigned innocent request for an investigation that makes you a bigot. It is believing any negative thing anyone has to say about Jews or Israel without demanding a whit of evidence before spreading the accusation yourself and demanding that others defend it. It is your open and repeated bias against and hatred of Jews and Christians imad - It is your acceptance of bad behavior when done by Muslims and your intolerant attitude toward all other religions that makes you a bigot. Any questions?
     
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    @brwn
    I see you bring this 'evidence' thing in every thread! What kind 'evidence' will make you believe?

    @chaos
    on what basis you say that is picture in question is from Mexico Or Chechnya ?
     
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