Israeli terrorist millitary attacks a civilain aid ship heading to Gaza

As Thomas Paine wrote, "My country is the world. My religion is to do good."

Hey gworld, what's it like to be a Nationalist and a Socialist? Do you have to goosestep everywhere you go? Doesn't your left arm get tired?

 

Buyer= Israel lobby and government
Seller= Neo-conservative "Republican" politicians and their supporters
Goods and service= propaganda for state of Israel and betrayal of USA´s interests in service to Israel
Payment=That was my question, I know that politicians get paid in form of campaign contribution and votes but I was wondering how people like you get paid to betray their country interests, per post or monthly salary.

 

Gworld, you wonder why people think you are a Muslim. Outside of the subject matter of your accusation and response, your failure to answer the question fits the Islamist profile on this forum wonderfully. Let me put the question back out so you can see your failure to answer it:

So lets go through your answer.

Propaganda? You mean support for our allies abroad? I suppose if we were to take up Polands side over Russia, or South Korea over North Korea, that would be propaganda as well?

Betrayal of USA's interests? You haven't even explained this one, no less substantiated it. Perhaps you are referring to our safety from terrorists? Oh no mommy, there is a terrorist in my closet because we support Israel, lets stop! I suppose we betrayed US interests when we sent thousands of men to their deaths to fight along side the UK against Germany and Italy 70 years ago? Look, I realize "surrender" is part of your culture, and the Islamists are pretty scary. That said, if you want to go around calling those who support their allies against what are unquestionably a genocidal and blood thirsty band betrayers, you are going to first need to present a legitimate argument, and then present some evidence to back your claim

Further admission your idiotic trolling statement has no evidence. First, it isn't just Republicans that support Israel. Second, it doesn't take payment to support an ally, there are any number of reasons to do so but I like common sense the best.

Do you think you can create a post in response to this that actually contains an argument with evidence? The trolling is getting old.

 

The important question is that why Israel is ally?

Ally=someone associated with another to give assistance or moral support

In what way Israel is supporting or assisting USA?

Is Israel providing military support for weak USA? No, it is the other way around.

Is Israel providing financial support for poor USA? No, It is USA that is paying the bill for Israel.

Is Israel bringing some good will for USA and helps the bad USA in International affairs? No, it is only destroying USA image among the rest of the world.

Let´s also not forget about all Israel spies in USA that have stolen military and industrial information. Both FBI and CIA has warned about the dangers of Israel spy rings in USA.

With such ally who needs an enemy.

 

Why is Pakistan an Ally, or Saudi Arabia, or China, or Kuwait? The list goes on and on.

Pakistan
Governance by American Ideals (Individual Freedom, separation of church and state)? no
Providing USA military support? no.
Providing USA financial support? no.
Exporting terrorism? yes.

China
Governance by American Ideals ? no
Providing USA military support? no
Providing USA financial support? no (Debt is not financial aid)
Spying on the US? yes

Kuwait
Governance by American Ideals ? no
Providing USA military support? no
Providing USA financial support? no

Saudi Arabia
Governance by American Ideals ? no
Providing USA military support? no
Providing USA financial support? no
Exporting Terrorism? yes

Israel
Governance by American Ideals ? yes
Providing USA military support? yes (How convenient we only have to send weapons to wage war against the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah)
Exporting Terrorism? no

So you see the elected Israeli Government as worse than the Saudis? Obviously not. Any loss of "image" is based on the blind Jew hatred amongst the large Muslim community which ignores genocide in hundreds of other countries including their own to focus on the "Jew" problem. By singling out Israel you join the chorus of what amounts to blatant and unabashed racism.

Even if the bullshit claims of your argument were true, Israel would not place in the top five worst US allies. Don't sweat it man. Even today, we have lots of Jew haters in the US as well. Guys like David Duke, and Glenn Miller actually campaigned and won(Duke) political office in the USA based on hatred of the Jews(and other non-white folks like Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis, Palestinians, etc).

During WWII it was even more popular. Then too, open 'Jew lovers" and "Jew sympathizers" were considered to have destroyed their reputation amongst many at home and abroad. I can picture you as a citizen of occupied France, helping show the people occupying your nation find the Jews so as not to ruin "your image".

Trust when I say, as a Quebeqois, your image can't really be damaged that much, so don't worry about it.

Perhaps you should the history of Israel a quick read over so you can avoid sounding like such an ill informed bigot. Its a quick read with fairly small words.

 

LOL.

You remind me of Christians in another thread who were claiming that Mohammad is worse than Jesus and therefore Jesus is good. The best argument that you can come up with is that Israel is not as bad as some other countries that USA is "friend" with. Does Israel loans money to USA like Chinese by buying American debts? Is Israel a big producer of oil like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and try to control the market on USA´s behalf? Is Israel like Pakistan a last stop against Russian or may be Chinese and Indians drive toward the warm waters of Indian ocean? How much those countries are costing USA in comparison with Israel? Did Kuwait, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia have active military and industrial espionage rings in USA? How many American military personal have been convicted spying for Kuwait and how many for Israel?

It is funny that you try to silence any critic of Israel and discussion about American policies toward that country by claiming that other people hate Jews and are anti-Semites. Is this what the Mossad handlers of "American" traitors teach them about on how silence the critics course?

 

No I was simply pointing out the US has many questionable allies that do little for us which we defend financially and militarily nevertheless. I was pointing out that you and the Muslims single out Israel and work hard at making arguments like the remainder of your post as to why they are somehow or other worse than countries like Saudi Arabia. Your implication is, "They do nothing for you, so why do you defend them"? With reasoning like that calling you a bigot is completely unnecessary, whether or not it is part of some alleged playbook being printed by some Israeli organization. Your own statements do it for me. Why in the world would I want to silence you?

 

The Israeli's man the ramparts on the front line between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb.

Every citizen of the free world who has not been murdered by an Islamist attack owes a debt of gratitude to the Israeli people.

We should be thankful every day that we only have to contribute money to the defense of that rampart, while the Israeli's contribute both their money and their blood.

 

People like GWorld think that if we just throw the Jews and Israel under the bus, the Muslims will calm down and the world will be at peace. Polite Teen spelled it out for us in no uncertain terms. It is the duty of every faithful Muslim to put the unbelievers under their boot where they must either convert or pay Jizyah. If Israel were to fall, you would see people like Newbie, Polite Teen, and millions like them rallying in the streets with 'Death to America" banners and burning American flags, refreshed and energized from their victory, and ready to carry on the fight. Even if the Muslims would calm down if we let them commit genocide against the Israelis, what kind of cowardly assh*le would permit that to go down? Just sit by while I kill your neighbor(because god told me to), and I won't kill you too.

 

What a bunch of crap. Do you even know how many European and American live and do business in Middle East without being "murdered"?
Don´t watch too many war movies and try to stop playing your x.box and dreaming about being special force and instead join the rest of us in real world. Talk with Arab, Muslim customers in the burger king that you are working in and very soon you will discover that this type of BS that you post, is just result of your fantasies.

 

Were you absent on the day they were teaching how to divert criticism of Israel in Mossad or were you not listening? You forgot to put in Holocaust in the mix.

How are Jews mixed in the relation of USA with another nation? Jews can be a race or a religion but I was not aware that USA state department has special relation with different religions. How about the Jews in France, Germany or Russia; should USA attack and occupy those countries every time there is an attack on Jews in those countries? How about Jews who don´t like state of Israel, should USA protect those Jews too or Just those Jews who like Israel and live there?

We are talking about formal relation between 2 countries, USA and Israel and as any other relation such as this each country should be interested in it´s own interests. A patriot will fight for and protect his own country interests while a traitor will put the other country interest above his own. You can decide which one are you and unless you are Israeli, you won´t be a patriot.

 

Some things are more important than petty nationalism. Among those are ideals such as freedom and liberty. As Thomas Paine wrote, "Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it; I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons should I make a whore of my soul."

 

I see you weren't absent on the day they taught you how to deflect every comment about Radical Islam and make it about the Jews.

I get it. Hell I repeated it back to you correctly didn't I ? We should only consider our own interests when dealing with the Isrealis. What do they do for us? We had people quoting your foreign policy recommendations chapter and verse when we sent people over to Kuwait in 1991. What do they do for us? I suppose when we sent the band of murderous thugs who invaded, plundered, and raped that nation to meet Allah, we were a bunch of traitors to our own nation in your book? Given your general resentment of America, I imagine the answer to that question is yes.

Why in the world would we spend even a moment worrying about what a guy like you thinks about us? Illogical criticisms from people like you will continue regardless of what action we take until we are no longer a dominant force in world politics. The biggest issue in your political agenda is probably separation from Canada, so the great nation of Quebec is no longer dragged down by the rest of those slugs in Canada who are unwilling to speak French(A french not even spoken in France anymore). I suppose once you have achieved your great nation of Quebecistan, you will try and join NAFTA so you can sell things into the US market, a market without which your small province would quickly devolve into third world status. Personally, I'd vote against your membership on principal(You know.. principals.. one of the reasons we stand up for Israel?)

Here's a tip for you. Quit bitching about whatever the US does. Quit bitching about whatever Canada does. Work to teach at least three of your backwards thinking neighbors English, and use it as their primary language. Try and figure out what it is that you have in common with the great people of Canada, rather than what it is that makes you different. Before long, you'll find you no longer wind up on the side of the terrorists in these little discussions.

 

LOL. Some us who actually served their country by serving in their country Armed forces are proud to be a nationalist. Unlike you, I am not only a loud mouth coward whose only military experience is playing war games on x-box. What is interesting in your post is the fact that you are finally admitting that you are putting the interests of Israel above your own country and then try to justify the fact that you and your friends are traitors by some stupid quote that has nothing to do with discussion.

No, I fully expect that you as Israeli agent should put the interests of Israel above your "own" country.
Do you know where Kuwait is located? Do you know how much oil they have? Do you know without reacting to Iraq invasion of Kuwait, there was a possibility of Saudi Arabia be the next target and effectively disrupt the oil flow from middle East? Why do you think USA gets involved in Kuwait while doesn´t give a damn about what happens in Africa?
Now, that I have explained Kuwait for you, tell us why should USA care about your pay masters in Tel Aviv.

 

Explain Bosnia. Explain Somalia. If geography is your excuse for Kuwait, you should need no explanation of Israel. I hate to sound like Awinsjclarke here but oversimplification is a logical fallacy. Do you really think we would let Spain fall if Lybia or Algerian got a crazy hair up their ass? We may not always agree with our allies, but we do defend them(even the Quebecois).

 

Quebec is such a drain on Canadian government resources -- I am surprised the Canadians haven't kicked the Quebecois out of the country yet.

If I were Canadian, I would vote to let their little welfare state drown in it's own excrement.

 

I have already explained enough for you, you can look for the reason for Bosnia yourself, it is not that difficult if you have a brain.

Care to Explain what is the importance of Israel from Geo-politics point? Being your pay masters doesn´t count.

By the way, I am not from Quebec, I am from BC.

If you were Canadian , it would have made me very ashame that such a coward bigot is from my country.

 

That's me, I'm bigoted against tyranny. Call me crazy.

 

I think the only thing that you are against is to be a man.

 

And apparently you do not. What was Bosnia's great diplomatic tie to the US? Somalia? It is becoming pretty apparent you just like singling Israel out.

And I'm from the Russia. Do you live in Quebec or not?