Israeli terrorist millitary attacks a civilain aid ship heading to Gaza

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/world/middleeast/11iran.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/world/middleeast/02iran.html

These aren't soldiers defending themselves against people with knifes and metal pipes. This is the state committing methodical and cold blooded murder against protesters. Where are all the Muslims with poorly written signs that say "Iran Suck"? Where are the rash of Iran hating signs calling for genocide against the Iranian people for the actions of their government? Israel botches an action trying to peacefully enforce their legal blockade and the just look at the vermin that crawl out of the woodwork. On this thread we have people OPENLY hailing Hitler as some kind of hero, and another saying Hitlers job remains unfinished! These are your paciifists! These are the kind and gentle people whose ideology matches that of the "peaceful" protesters on that boast. If you seriously cared about brutal regimes that butcher innocent people on a daily basis and oppress their populations, you would be protesting Syria, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Why don't you explain the lack of outrage about all these other countries/territories and their daily actions?

 

I don't disscus anything with people openly hailing Hitler because there's nothing to be disscused with them. Like anyone else,including you,I only disscus particular matters simply because ,like anyone else including you, don't have all time on the world. There's so much injustice on our planet that we would need to protest 24/7 whole year.

But the thing is that the whole time you guys wants us to believe that Israel is only country on planet earth that can't do any wrong. You guys form US would accept fact and admit that US was wrong 1,000,000 times but no! No Israel for God sake! They are God's choosen people! And that makes me involve from time to time in these disccusions. Nothing else.
I dunno why you can accept that US ,just for exaple, lie about something but Israel can't do that.

 

Good one

 

Israel has taken a hit with regard to world wide Public Relations. Its a shame. The Israeli IDF went in with Paint Ball guns. Paint Ball guns. For goodness sakes. How non-threatening can one be?

Meanwhile Hamas on Israel's east and south is a deadly terrorist group that slaughter's people and slaughtered the rival Palestinian group to take control of Gaza. They simply want to wipe out Israel. On the North Hezbollah has been consistently rearming for 3 years since the war between Hezbollah and Israel. Supposedly the UN is there to stop that....but it hasn't.

Israel. The one nation on earth with enemies sworn to destroy it on either side. The world sits by and does nothing.

With the rest of the world sitting by; with the UN being utterly useless in controlling Hezbollah Israel should take every step to defend itself.

Screw the terrorists.

 

...Or in short, he would rather not answer your question and revert the subject back to Israel and those "zionist lying pigs"!
I mean, he will need to protest 24/7! Much easier to just silently ignore all the atrocities that are commited by the religion of peace and the countries of peace and deal with the REAL problem - terrorist Zionists!
No surprise there.

Speaking of which, here's a very nice speech which is worth a view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obUhOcTSD1I&feature=player_embedded

 

Hmmmm the way I see it you do nothing that protest against unjustice in the world whole day long... Oh! Wait! Yeah right...
Btw why you always try to amputate words people never said to anyone who disagree with you?

 

I'm not sure what you are talking about. The US has been wrong many times. Prolonged enslavement of Blacks, Jim Crow laws, robbing the Native Americans of their land, then slaughtering them with diseased blankets, supporting a variety of brutal dictators around the planet including Noriega, Sadaam Hussein, support for big businesses that basically operated slave labor camps called coal mines, etc, etc, etc, etc. Israel is wrong about a great many things as well, including their perceived involvement in the black international market for human organs. If one were only to focus on the a nation's mistakes, one could call just about any nation evil.

You can take all those wrongs and add this botched handling of a bunch of wannabe Martyrs to the top of the list, and it still wouldn't compare to the atrocities committed on a daily basis in most Muslim nations. You accuse the US and Israel of lying, for example, but the sheer quantity of lies and half truths being spread by the Islamists on this very thread is overwhelming. I'm all for taking a moderate approach and trying to fix problems. I can admit Israel botched the handling of those protesters if you can admit those protesters desired to become martyrs for the cause. Can you admit that?

If you can admit that, you are one step closer to not being manipulated by the people on that boat and their masters.

 

Here we go again... US did wrong this and that but there's nothing wrong done by Israel...

If you go on boat heading to Gaza and Israelis said that they will stop it using force and history of Israely brutality against civilians is well know you are aware that your life is in a stake and people choose to willingly put their lifes on stake for a cause. It's idiotic even to discus about it. They are not children. So yes, they were ready to die for a cause.

Is Jan Palach martyr according to your standars?

 

Can you compare Israel War and killed thousands of people with those? even Children died? I will be surprised if you give a biased note on this issue can't expect from you. Were all the 600 people were terrorist? no one knows were all 20 people died were terrorists or 60 people wounded were terrorist? Bottom line is if there was an arm supply did they find any? I didn't hear anything about this one!

As far as all the replies from other people I am not surprised as Israeli supporters wont agree on our views and we cannot agree on your views! It will go on and on and on...

Now there are 2 medias Arab and Asian media who is clearly showing Israeli are terrorist killed the innocent people..

And other is Jewish and American media which is saying peace activists provoked and attacked innocent soldiers.

What if you were born here and we were there? This thing will go on so useless discussion no one will agree on either side!

 

I'm not intimately familiar with Israel's wrongdoings, but being a country ruled by human beings, I am positive they exist.

That is not an answer. There is an enormous difference between being ready to die for a cause, and seeking to die for a cause(martyrdom). You do understand the difference, don't you?

Don't know who that is, and don't have time to google it right now.

Do you have even a basic understanding of war? Countries didn't even make attempts at preventing civilian casualties in war campaigns until 50 years ago. During WWII, civilians as often than not were the actual targets of war campaigns. This is the nature of war. When the war ends, the killing stops.

What are you talking about? 9 people died. Were they terrorists? I don't know, maybe. They definitely desired to become Martyrs. What is your point?

So what? The purpose of a naval blockade is to prevent the movement of arms and people into a given region. They did not honor the blockade and paid the price. If you try and speed your car past armed police officers blocking the road in Pakistan, would you expect them not to shoot at you whether or not you have something illegal in your vehicle? If they killed you and then discovered there was nothing in the vehicle, would it matter?

Why would your media be making any statement of innocence or guilt on either side of the issue? The media's job is to report the facts. It is the job of the people viewing the media to make their own opinions. You have the internet in Pakistan(or at least what they will permit you to see, minus Youtube), so you have access information from both sides. If you can't make an informed opinion on your own with free and open access to information, you have only yourself to blame.

 

Well Israel is not in a state of War against Palestine they have captured it, including Gaza and Palestine has no army so it is a complete take over and Palestine is not a free country why can't Israel give them a peaceful land to live? ...

As I said you are believing on your media! 20 people died according to many news channels! and 9 you are saying? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/may/31/israel-troops-gaza-ships

Quote from Guardian more than ten?

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90854/7007137.html

Now your findings are wrong why would we believe on those videos!? Then why are you and your media lying and making false statements?

It was international waters not Israeli waters...

Yes it would definitely matter they will have them arrested and send the Policeman to jail after inquiry for lifetime if found guilty shooting a person who has nothing with him! I guess it doesn't matter in Israel? Now I can realize killing doesn't matter there at all!

Now in earlier threads some people said you are stupid saying white flag there were no white flag and now in new video there is a white flag can be seen clearly even by a color blind or who is short sighted or far sighted can see a white flag. So this makes how your facts rely on lies over lies!

 

Translation:

I am really disgusted that Israel gets away with defending itself from terrorists. That is just really, really wrong, and I'm really really mad!

 

There we go again! making one statement and altering it... I can make a worse translation of your translation!

 

MORE EVIDENCE FROM THE MARMARA SECURITY CAMERA, RIOTERS PREPARING TO ATTACK IDF SOLDIERS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU

 

Interview with Israel Spokesman to see the big picture by Channel 4

[video=youtube;b06gRN_tL74]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b06gRN_tL74[/video]

 

Because rocketfire originating from Gaza hits Israel daily? Are you unaware of this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...-British-families-face-anxious-wait-news.html
http://blog.taragana.com/politics/2...ip-deaths-demands-israel-release-turks-40809/

Didn't we just have this discussion? The liberal trash mag most people refer to as the Guardian Says 20. Even Democracy Now! only said 15. The rest of the legitimate news outlets say 9. The Turkish Government says 9. Why is it you cling to the number 20? Its called sensationalism. Bigger numbers = More outrage. I think I may have mistaken you for someone who was able to see two sides o an issue. You clearly desire to believe only the most inflammatory information.

 

LOL. Poor Mark, having to deal with a condescending douche. He did a good job answering the questions!
What will happen if Turkey will come with a warship? If things won't get settled at sea, it's going to be war.
Turkey is surely not an ally to Israel any more

 

Again? Do I know you?

It was not a statement. It was sarcasm. Next time I'll try to be a bit more specific so you get it the first time.

 

Preparing a new fleet. The Turkish armed forces will be accompanied by. We'll go to the city of Gaza. If attack done. ( bad things happen )




Known as the proximity of the Israeli intelligence website DEBKAfile. "Turkish Generals, to break the Israeli Blockade. Gaza and prepare plans to take avenge" claim was.

 

Isn't it ironic that Egypt maintains this blockade as well, and also confronted these terrorist? Funny how no one seems to mention that. Hopefully next time Israel just sinks the ships.