Israeli terrorist millitary attacks a civilain aid ship heading to Gaza

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mi25, May 30, 2010.

  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #201
    The real issue is not about the protesters' so-called "violence". You just don't shoot people on a ship filled with 10,000 tonnes of food and supplies in international waters, period. That's the real reason why the whole world is outraged except for these Israeli-Zionist wannabes.
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #202
    Yes, but if someone were to argue that 1+1 != 2, would you bust out footage of Hitler explaining the math as your credible evidence? Really? Thanks also for the humor in trying to equate the evils of Israel to the obvious truth of 1+1=2. I suppose for someone like David Duke, a self proclaimed Jew hater, it is that obvious. Look everyone! David Duke says Jews are bad! It must be true!


    LOLOLOLOL. Their marketing material which proclaims what good people they are clearly shoots down my argument. I'm crying here, stop it! Its killing me. And then the icing on the cake.

    Go back and re-read my post. I stated Nightcrawlers, the person who posted the David Duke clip, was Pakistani, which he is.

    I had an epiphany while considering your poor argumentation, selection of witnesses, and overall weak reading comprehension. The reason the Palestinians and Jew hating Muslims are so angry is because they continually fail when trying to purge the planet of Israel and the Jews. After the many sneak attacks, military strikes, terrorist attacks, and now political ploys for sympathy, Israel continues to thrive while the Muslim nations around them languish. The obvious reason for these failures is .... the Israelis are more intelligent than their adversaries.

    Seriously. Think about it. When you stack so many Nobel prize winning scientists in a democratic society with capitalist funding, almost anything is possible. Their adversaries, on the other hand, have people like you as their poster children. Short on logic skills, short on education, high on religious fervor. Its not like watching a B student take on the C student, its more like watching the A+ student take on the drop out. Its like putting Erkle in the ring with Mike Tyson.

    You guys want to play the media game, Israel says, "been there, done that". Developing nuclear weapons, Israel says waaaay too late.

    Now me, being a charitable guy, I don't really like to see such a lob sided fight, so I want to help. In that spirit I'm going to lay out a very basic 3 point plan on how you(Everyone wishing for Israel's demise) can accomplish your goal.

    1) Get an education. Something outside of the Madrassa. Continue on to get a higher education including graduate school.
    2) Reward your people on their achievements in education, even if some of the things they learn fly in the face of your Islamic teachings.
    3) Elect leaders who stand behind free enterprise and the rule of the people, rather than rule by the religious. Without free enterprise and Democracy, you will always be too poor to wage a proper war with motivated soldiers and good equipment.

    It won't happen overnight, it probably wouldn't happen even in a single generation if you started today. That said, if you were to drop all your current planning and pursue those three bullet points, you would unquestionably and without fail one day produce the funding and enough intelligent people from your culture to actually be capable of accomplishing your goal. You would be fighting them on all the same fronts you do now, via propaganda, military, and economics, but you would WIN for a change! Seriously. Consider it. I'm trying to help you in your efforts here.


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    @Moreplayerz.com Before we had tactics like tear gas, rubber bullets, and bean bags, when riots got out of hand live rounds were fired at times (Kent State). The traditional method still used by the US military today for preventing a ship from running a military blockade has been the sinking of the ship. It is very difficult for a person trying to swim to try and stab you or shoot at you. I'll give Israel props for trying to be humanitarian in this instance, but in all fairness, had it been a US military blockade, we would have just sunk the boat. True for most other countries I imagine.
     
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  3. Chrissy17

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    #203
    Some news reports suggest that Israel actually followed restraint by not making vessel-on-vessel attacks, and instead tried to board the ship. By the way, most of the ships were towed safely to port without any violence. There was trouble only on the Mavi Marmara and that too when the people on board attacked the Israelis. Many of the soldiers had only paintball guns.
     
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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #204
    An elite squad of the IOF were armed only with paintball guns? ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL. If you actually buy that story, you will believe anything, such as the abomination above who writes 2+ pages of nonsense about some person called David Duke (whom I've never heard of and was not even on the ship) and still avoids the main issue. There's really no point entertaining such people any longer if they want to be deaf, dumb and blind to the facts.
     
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  5. iggysick

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    #205
    Violent protests are nothing unusal. Shoting them to death is. And elite commando forces carring only paintball guns?!? Seriously lol
     
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  6. ChaosTrivia

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    #206
    Gladly.
    France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_Gaham
    Italy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Giuliani

    Need more?

    The soldiers asked for permission to switch to live amo. one of them yelled: "please, or else they kill me", and then green light was finally given to pull the backup guns and throw away the paintball rifles.
    I wouldn't call this "a murder".

    "logic"....

    thank you for leaving the anti-semitic comment for the side note and not putting in the center of your arguments for a change.
    Two of the elite squad were infact "goyims", belonging to the bedouin minority.
    The "Israelis who don't give a shit about goyims lives" treated all flotilla wounded in Israeli hospitals who just tried to lynch them to death. 12 of them underwent complicated surgeries. Some are still in intensive care.

    It was a badly planned mission. The soldiers thought the they will have a hike on a peace activist mission. They did not imagine that they were landing on a ship of terrorists ready to kill and die.


    Looking forward for more of your "wisdom"....
     
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  7. iggysick

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    #207
    Are you serious?
    Please go and read on links you've posted and get back to me. Salah Gaham didn't got shot from police and in case of Carlo Guliani there was a trial (and there is trial every time in cases such this one in civilised countries). let's see such thing in Israel.

    So when you got permission to shot violent protestor it's not murder because you got permission!?! lol
    Civilised country indeed...

    Yup, let's first shot them and then we'll treat them in our hospitals... Seriously, are you serious?
    How many violent Jewish protestors were shot to death by Israeli soldiers?

    lol so that's why elite commanods were send there :D
    Btw how would you know that they were terrorists if nobody even knows their names yet! Is everyone who attacks Jews even with sticks a terrorist?
    is that how you guys wash blood from your hands? Everyone you kill you just proclaim terrorist and killing is ok than?

    Yeah, let's make it personally, I'm only goyim for you so it's ok.
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #208
    [video=youtube;MB-Mk4bFz-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-Mk4bFz-U[/video]
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #209
    I forgot to mention, the reason I find your avatar amusing is because it is grammatically incorrect. Nothing makes a statement about your intelligence like carrying around a sign that says something clever like, "Niggers is stupid". You response demonstrates why the problems in Palestine won't go away for a long time. Perhaps hanging a sign on the wall that says "Gaza Penitentiary" is the best solution.
     
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  10. ChaosTrivia

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    #210
    you misrepresented what I said in an intentional, obnoxious, and repulsive manner. ignoring my argument of self defense.
    I will repeat what I say before I put you on ignore. You are worse that the worst Muslim terrorists here, because unlike them who were sucking jew-hatred from the tits of their mothers, you did have an opportunity to get yourself an education.

    The soldiers asked for permission to shoot in order to save their own lives . Without permission, they would not have not opened fire: the IDF elite squads are a disciplined crazy fuckers. It takes 4 years of training just to start the service in the shayetet 13 unit. Without permission, few of them would have died. You get it you dickhead?
    Therefore, what I said is that its not murder because the soldiers acted to save own lives, and not because "they were given permission"
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    The guy I was speaking about watched these two "peace activists" beating his comrad and asked for permission to take them off him, while having a terrorist on himself. One of the two "peace activists" in the picture died, the other one understood that he better split off: the guy lying on the floor sustained heavy skull damage. Two other Israeli soldiers were hit by live amo, and they were firing back paintball bullets.

    The fault for the events lies to the shoulders of the IDF officers who planned the operation, and assumed that these are real peace activists. I want to see them pay with their career.
    But, once the mistake is made and the soldiers are down, you wouldn't expect them to let the terrorists kill them and not shoot to save own lives?

    look what happened you idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI

    If after you see the first contact and still claim that the IDF was on a mission to kill a bunch of hippie peace activists, only because you hate American jews, this makes you the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on DP, and a disgrace to America.
     
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  11. iggysick

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    #211
    Thanks. We're done here. Go spread your propaganda somewhere else.

    Edit: it's a really shame that DP allows posters like you to post here.
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #212
    Who cares? The avatar is part of the Kempen "Israel Suck" Di Facebook initiated by a Malaysian blogger, I am just putting it up in solidarity with his effort. If you want to become a grammar police and complain about it, take it up with him. I am just the messenger.

    Its amazing propaganda too, considering that elite commandos armed "only" with "paintball guns" can kill up to at least 20 unarmed people.
     
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  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #213
    LoL. If you wanted to show solidarity, wouldn't it make more sense to send him a polite note to let him know his English suck too? Seriously. What type of support do you expect to drum up sounding like an idiot? It seems the only people you would attract with an idiotic message are idiots.

    Mission accomplished?
     
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  14. alimosavi

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    #214
    Please stop your supporting of organized terrorist (it is very flagrant ) , this is completely certain , Israel is biggest terrorist on the world , you can not change this by word gaming ,
    I very sorry there are persons in DP that close him's eyes to reality ,

    that time become very soon that Israel leaders and some them supporter be tried for War crimes and Crimes against humanity ,
     
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  15. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #215
    Doesn't suck as bad as Israel does and we all know Israel sucks.
     
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    #216
    Who here believes sailors from the Turkish Navy would allow themselves to be clubbed to death by "peace activists"? Who here believes that the Turks don't try to intercept weapons shipments to the Kurds?

    Even Flotilla organizer Greta Berlin admitted "This mission is not about delivering humanitarian supplies." This is all about creating and propagating lies through a willing media.
     
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    #217
    Can you imagine Iran doing same thing! it would take a week or two for them to get shock and awe from US.
    Of course, I understand your position: we are talking about humanitarian aid and activists and protestors on one side and Gods choosen people from other side. It's clearly understable from me that you would simply sink the ship with few hundred civilians. Good for you. They hate you because of your freedom.
     
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    #218
    oh!! killing people with out any reason:(
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #219
    The Islamists did have reason to kill the Jews -- it's commanded by Muhammad in the Qua'ran.
     
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    #220
    hey israel! Fight with every country but dont fight with Turkey!If you fight with turkey we can bury you underground.You wont win a fight by killing people.You all are a terrible country, you are terrible killers because you kill children.
     
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