Israeli spies carrying out 'racial profiling' at International Airports

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  1. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #41
    It's ok for isreal to do so ask any bona fide zionist:D
     
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    #42
    OFC but when they get caught with their pants down there really is nothing to defend;)
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #43
    God forbid those dirty joos try to defend themselves. I mean after all, look at their dominance in a region that is really, really peaceful. :rolleyes:

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    Hint, the little blue thing is where those mean nasty joos live!:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Toopac

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    #44
    Sob story? can you point out the Gaza strip concentration camp?

    You post doesn't even do anything for the quote you quoted;)

    Calling Jews dirty is you MO, IE bigoted views again. Nice to see you using a map from a hate site:)
     
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  5. new

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    #45
    There is a saying
    One bad apple can spoil the whole barrel.

    and it is very true for isreal :D
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #46
    It's bigotfest 2009... Brought to you by New and Toopac!
     
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  7. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Haha. So by that logic, Muslim terrorists make all Muslims scumbags. Very interesting.
     
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  8. browntwn

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    #48
    Is there a difference between these three things:

    1. An Israeli airport worker searches and profiles people about to fly Israeli airline to Israel.

    2. An Israeli airport worker, who works/worked for Mossad, searches and profiles people about to fly Israeli airline to Israel.

    3. A Mossad agent spies on the country of South Africa itself to gain knowledge of state secrets.
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    To me 1 & 2 are basically the same thing except the guy in #2 sounds much more qualified for the job. I am not bothered by 1 or 2, in fact, I am comforted by them. I feel safer knowing that someone is not waiting to be victims.

    As for #3, that is a clear case of spying, something we know all sophisticated countries engage in to some level and is, shall we say, a matter of life which is usually best settled by the parties at stake who know the real value/damage of the offense. There is a great history of countries trading spies caught by each other. The spy game is pretty simple, don't get caught. If you do, you may die or get punished and that is just reality. Some countries fight and pay a price to get their people out of such jams. I certainly respect when my country stands up for the men/women working for us.
     
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    #49
    trying to subdue the brazen espionage attempt at a sovereign country ?
    I know it it very hard for you to condemn the holy land

    there is a different between carrying out "intelligence operations " within your borders compared to sending your secret agents to other countries for espionage

    do you have anything to backup that EVERY COUNTRY is doing the same ? from your retarded view of world should we assume that by EVERY COUNTRY you mean isreal and usa ? why do you think that everyone would be as rouge as isreal ?
     
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    #50
    i do not see anything wrong with this unless i would be a SA then obviously i would mind a foreign spy working in my country.
     
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    #51
    Yeah, I would much rather see my government spy on other countries than on our own citizens.
     
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    yes i would have a big problem with being spied on by my own govt. i think one should have all the freedom to disagree and express this disagreement with his own govt without any fear.
     
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    #53
    If Canada wanted to watch those flying from the USA to Canada because the USA had sent people there prior to blow up people on buses, that would be a very wise thing to do.

    Shoot if they want to profile the USA anyways because they thought a certain group of people were coming in to harm those who live in Canada, that is their priority isn't it.
     
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    #54
    yet another sign of hypocrisy
    choosing for others what you don't chose for your own self


    If isreal has a problem than they can make tighter immigration and travel laws

    however, I don't see that why they would need undercover agents unless they want to do something shady and break the law of the land where they are operating from
     
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    #55
    Would you choose that murderers and rapists share your holiday meal with you? Of course we choose for others what we do not choose for ourselves.
     
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    #56
    you chose that SAfricans be spied upon and dislike that you be spied upon, that is hypocrisy i.e. dual standards

    I highly doubt that all of SA consist of murders and rapists similarly I highly doubt that all of USA consists of murders and rapists, yet it is OK for you to spy on SAfricans but bad if same happens to you
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #57
    You are wrong. I think all countries and peoples should do the same thing. I do not think my government should do one thing and everyone else's do something else. I think a governments job is to protects its citizens, not spy on them.
     
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    #58
    No. It was said that we would prefer our government spy on someone besides its own people. That, after all, is what intelligence gathering is supposed to be for. I have no doubt the spies of other governments are at work right now inside of America spying on us, China in particular.

    You are having trouble with the analogy. I'll try and explain it to you like I might to a two year old. Murderers and Rapists sit in a jail cell in the US, a fate I would definitely not desire myself. The double standard not only exists, it is just. Likewise, Israel's secret police profile's Muslim nut jobs that think it is OK to target civilian aircraft and weaponize them. In this case, it was done on South African soil. Perhaps they have done it on the US soil, but the US does a pretty good job at profiling Muslim nut jobs so they probably don't have to. Is it OK with the South African Government? I don't know. If they were doing their job properly, Israel probably wouldn't have to do what you accuse them of doing.
     
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    #59
    Than what ? does it legitimatize the spying done by terrorist isreal ?
    is the the job of a hired assassin to murder does it mean that it is OK to murder ?

    because it is flawed from the core


    Great indeed, isreal spies on Sout Africa and that too is fault of South Africa .. simply amazing ..

    really how hard is it to denounce a cheap act of espionage ? perhaps too much to expect from the zionists blinded by their sense of superiority
     
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    No, I was just pointing out your racism. You don't complain about anyone else's perceived transgressions, just those of Israel. In analogy after analogy, all you have is blind hatred for Israel. In almost every case, not only do you presume guilt on the part of Israel but you frame it in the worst possible light. Hey, its ok that you are a racist. I just think you should start every post with something like, "Let me start out by saying I'm a complete racist and would hate Israel no matter what they did".


    Presumption of guilt, phrased as espionage, rather than profiling airline customers, which is apparently what your own source says it was. To your other point, it was unquestionably Afghanistan's fault Osama Bin Laden was able to attack the US. It is definitely the government of Iran's fault IEDs, weapons, and actual soldiers were flowing across the border to destabilize Iraq for a very long time. It is definitely the fault of Syria that most of the moderate politicians in Lebanon have been assassinated. It is definitely Venezuela's fault FARC has received funding from his government in its efforts to destabilize Columbia. Of course I don't see you complaining about any of these more serious actions, many of which constitute an act of War.

    Here is one possible shiny bright future you would loathe. China manages to bring 50% of its people into the modern age when they join the middle class. They then care enough about the goings on in the world to join NATO, the UN, and specifically America in policing rogue states in the name of stability. Actions like the ones above are dealt with multiple warnings followed by regime change. Palestine would probably immediately have about 40,000 foreign peacekeeping troops marched into it. Settlements would stop, the rocket fire would end, and Hamas would be out of power. What would you do then?
     
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