The Israeli military has been urged to investigate the recent shootings of at least 12 impoverished Palestinian teenagers and young men collecting gravel in an effort to eke out an income within 800 metres of Gaza’s heavily guarded northern border. The youngsters - including at least two under 15 - were shot and injured as they gathered the gravel to sell cement manufacturers struggling to meet a fraction of the demand for building materials still banned from entering Gaza through Israel. The shootings - highlighted in reports this week by two human rights agencies - are the latest development to come to light in a more general military enforcement of a "buffer zone" inside Gaza’s border. The UN says this has resulted in 22 civilian deaths and 146 injuries since the end of Israel's 2008-9 military onslaught on the Hamas-controlled territory. A 91-year-old man and two other civilians were killed last month as they grazed sheep close to the border. Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...collecting-gravel-by-gaza-border-2103992.html
answer is simple. maybe she was trying to attack Israel with a big bomb of her own size, soldiers suspected and so she was killed. what to talk about it. remember the freedom flotilla also. i dont wonder on Israel anymore.
Well. This is a border from which we get a lot of terrorist attempts: mainly fire squads shooting at Israeli soldiers (incidents which go unreported). http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/207208 2 months ago here for example. 2 anti-tank missiles fire on the border. http://www.iba.org.il/bet/?entity=675147&type=1 1 months ago. This is almost daily. So, the rules are clear - stay away from the border: or get shot. If I live in Gaza and had a 12 year old boy, I would have made sure that he stays away from the border. The Palestinians not only miseducate their children but also not attend them. Why should they? with 6 children per women on average? there's enough "reserves"... The victims are at the responsibility of their parents and if the Hamas were humane he would have prosecuted them for negligence. And the Israel haters, like Hamas, are glad to see dead Palestinian children, for further political propaganda. as usual
Are you saying we should absolve the people who actually shot them because their mothers let them out, the mothers are to blame? The border has been moved and moved further and further into Palestinian grounds so really they're playing on their own land, how can you even consider that's the mothers fault. The drunk driver that ran over the kid in his front yard, it's the mothers fault - are you serious? One-eyed Israel supporter I guess (without any idea of what's wrong or right).
Well I wanted to post as soon as i saw this thread . I wanted to say that that soldier/group of soldiers is/are a totally nuts but the I read the article and somethings is unclear . Whit the bulldozers and groups of people , I don't have tac map of the situation but so far it looks like there was confusion on both sides .
In this case, YES. Before you know how its like to man a post where you are constantly at the fire range of terrorists who can take you out any time they want, that has this advantage over you, you're not in the position to judge the soldiers. In the case of this specific border, it hasn't move anywhere. It has been there exactly where it is for over 40 years. Another one commenting on Israel without knowing the most rudimentary facts? nothing new. There is no parallel between the two cases. A very idiotic example. blah blah
You said "children" then specified that all but two were adults; only 2 were under 15. As people love to play this shit up, I'm guessing that means two were 14? The only people to blame are the morons who went where they shouldn't have been. This is no different to the teenagers pelting rocks at cars, one of whom was then hit because the driver wasn't going to stop and get ambushed. PS - If it were a "freedom flotilla" they wouldn't have armed morons trying to knife soldiers in the back and taking hostages. That's why they got their asses kicked.
hey what about freedom flottila.. you know such a beautiful art of making excuses. i praise your this art. and the whole world know what is isreal.
Is it possible someone can explain why we hear of so much violence and aggression from Israelis against the Palestinians and not the other way round when all the western press are supposedly on Israels side? Maybe I read different papers? One can only imagine what they're not reporting. I'm not trying to be judgemental, at this stage from everything I've heard I can not understand how anyone can agree with what the Israelis have done and are still doing as they always come across as the aggressors. Even celebrity Israelis here disagree with the direction they've been taken, not caring what the rest of the world thinks. Some people (even here on DP) believe they are "the chosen people" and can do no wrong yet I have not heard one good thing they have done (yes, including facebook lol). I think more and more people are waking up to what's really happening which I guess sucks for Israelites going into the future. Whilst I 100% agree Israelis need a place to call home, they were given an amount of land to call home and have continued to steal more ever since, and that, is where it falls down big time. They spruke the Palestinians are agrssors yet it's their land that keeps growing. Weird how that works and happy to hear the excuses. One wonders why don't they buy it up rather than blow it up so each may live in peace? (Seems to be working everywhere else in the world as China owns much more than Chinese ground). Is this fight religious or political about bringing on Armageddon?
Sure. Here. This thread is a living example that answers your question. gauharjk's only contributions to this forum is to start threads like this, and not even stay to discuss them. He is a full-time Israel hate-spreading propagandist. That's why. Search for his previous threads and see for yourself. Did you read my post? I have shown you what they are not reporting. There are incidents on daily basis. They are not reported in the world media because it is daily, not deadly usually due to the renowned terrorist incompetence, and hence not interesting. I will stop here, at least until you relate to what I say instead of preach.
Whats the problem if human rights activists are calling for an internal investigation to military? especially when teenagers were with in 800 meters of the fence well beyond the exclusion zone declared by israel.. hamas may or may not benefit from the incident, but israeli soldiers shot innocent people violating their own law.. what a wonderful addition to the discussion...
See, you say incompetence, is that to degrade the other party or just against the OP because you don't like him? The story which sounds more logical is they just fire at towns and it lands where it lands but the Israeli's have more sophisticated weapons that can accurately hit their targets. Which is right, without putting them down? I'm sorry you think i'm trying to preach, not at all. I'm into news I guess and I thought I was a fair person. But from every angle I can't see how Israel can be defended for stealing more and more land than was given yet somehow twist it to all be the Palestinians fault', so I either have to be missing something or you're not right in your thinking. Hey, I'm an English-born Australian and have nothing to bias me towards one side or the other except the news I see and hear and the news for Israel is I, and many others around the world think that they're overstepping their boundaries. You, if you're in the zone, will have a much better understanding of the actual situation and might be 100% correct in your belief but from an outsider's perspective this is representative of the stories I get. Peace just isn't that important right now
Yes, this is right. The terrorists attempt to kill : the more the merry, the Israelis are highly selective in their choice of Targets. Oh, yes you are. Example: We are talking about Gaza. Israel has unilaterally withdrawn from Gaza some 6 years ago. Hence, there hasn't been any "land stealing" there. On the contrary there has been: "land-giving", and getting 9000 rockets as a "thank you". That sentence was a rant, purely out-of-context totally-irrelevant preaching. The news you see and hear from so far away is not enough to have even an introductory-level understanding of the Israel-Palestinian conflict, one the world's most interesting (and of the least bloody) ones. sorry.