I just finished watching this movie What are your opinions on this? And what can we do to stop this? Just so you know I am neutral on this subject really, I see both the parts but after this I think it is changing a bit on the situation and also how we receive the news.
Regretably after 57 years of the same a DP Poll is not going to resolve the situation, but hey, go for it DP is entertainment and social discourse by the educated elite Lets watch this thread disintegrate into mayhem
I just wanted to know what are the views of the general population, although I myself am not really interested in politics but would want to know and compare information and know what are the opinions of the people. Please watch the movie and comment as this post is in accordance to that. I am not saying that I am biased, but I think that might be changing soon as more I dig into the situation a totally different story is appearing before me. And please if you are going to argue, please do not state baseless fact I would be really interested in knowing where you got your information and how influenced it is. I would not like to see arguments based on your thinking but your views on the situation are welcome.
The thread would be more appropriately titled "islamic Occupation." When it comes to occupying other countries, no other entity has more experience with occupying other's lands, than islam. I watched the first ten minutes. I knew it would be an anti-semitic and anti-Israel film the second I saw Noam Chomsky. Basically a "wackademic" propaganda film by left-wing extremists. In typical propagada style, they used key victimhood terms and matched unsourced video (with no idea what context it came from) those terms to attempt to drive home points. One should take note of the speakers names and do some research of who these people are that are speaking and what motivates their one-sided views. Actually, some one did this, here.
I see what you mean but the point is that when I researched into the matter it looks from the British point of view and from BBC the view was different. Also the American media has also effectively used the victimized words such as replacing settlements with a Jewish neighbourhood within the outskirt of Israel. Also the word molding and modification is evident in their PR campaign. And also it does not seem to be only one sided as it also did blame the Palestinians for carrying out suicide attacks. Also this shows that on the contrary it is the American media which goes through filters and biases and reports it one-sided and is heavily influenced By the Israeli PR.
It's a propaganda film. Pure and simple. Those who know the history there will spot it fairly quickly, those that don't may actually be convinced, which is it's purpose entirely.
a Propaganda film sponsored by whom? How is this film benefiting anyone. Or is this a documentary informing the general public? If there are people who do know history please by all means let them watch and get their opinions on whether this movie which exploits propaganda is in fact propaganda.
At least the good thing is that they allowed this kind of content on air, if this was to be in America, they would switch you off immediately!
It's not up to me to let anyone watch/do anything they don't want to do. I do not have the means or desire to prevent anyone from watching anything they want to view. There are lots of people here with, ahem "opinions," on Israel and they will vary. Some are very willing to share those publicly, others are not quite ready to "come out of the closet" yet.
In 100-200 YEARS, Discussing about this is pointless. ARABS and JEWS will get along fine. Look at US and Japan. Japan was using SUICIDE BOMBERS to BOMB AMERICANs. Now they are GOOD FRIENDS. Desperate people TAKE DESPERATE ACTIONS...LIKE SUICIDE BOMBERS.... All I know is that in 200yrs, they will be together, and maybe who knows, they will fight someone, maybe AFRICANS, CHINESE, US, or INDIANS. 200yrs is really long time in MAN's time. But if you take look at the planet earth time frame, this is just A DROP IN THE OCEAN.
These people have been fighting for more than 1400 years, I highly doubt that they will get along unless they have peace with their neighbors then there might be a chance that the tension might go away, the Muslims are ready for peace.
Simply put, nothing about this situation makes one completely the good guy or bad guy. I refuse to vote on this, because the choices are too simplistic to the reality.
Well that is basically what I feel, watch this on how the propaganda is working within the Muslim countries to kill and blame jews.
Yes Sam...I know a lot of people that are ´neutral´ as you... The way you ask the question just tell us if you are neutral...Don´t try to deceive us... If you are neutral I´m Ahmadinejad talking about peace... BTW, there is a lot of films in the other way...if you are ´neutral´ post them also...
Israel is a military country no matter how you look at it. Thus peace is never an option for them. Quote of the month. What about global warming, clearvoyant Mr. Cupid? Israel doesn't occupy the land they live in because they were granted it by the British. Then again it was the british who occupied that region. It depends how you define occupation? Both Jews and Arabs are not the native inhabitants of the Gaza Strip/West Bank territories. They were both nomadic tribes therefore nobody has the right to the land. Period. Kick all of them out of there and solve the problem once and for all.
That was immediately with a big '!'. Do you think that there's a conspiracy behind the news that CNN/FoxNEWS/ABC deliver? If so, please explain how it works, because I'm quite interested.
You can get pretty much the same news stories from Sri Lanka, Kashmir or Darfur. So, that would probably not solve your problem. Stop watching the news would.
Israel was Israel, long before islam was ever invented. The land of Israel has a long history of being occupied by others. In fact, the quran itself not only acknowledges Israel, but refers to them as the "Children of Israel" numerous times throughout the quran. For example: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/061.qmt.html 061.006