Israeli control of Israel prophisied in the Bible.

That is a very good point!

 

Moses never said there would be different profits for different people.

That's a lie. That's why your confused because you mixed a lie with the truth that's what islam does.

 

Ha ha ha ha ha, yes he did.

 

I asked you once, if you are asking to know, or to attack Islam, if you want to attack Islam, feel free I won't reply you, Islam is stronger than you and all of us, but if you want to know, I m telling you, what you said is wrong, and will be glad to give you answers when I know you are looking for answers, but you said it already, that you have no questions, just saying the truth.

 

Where did he say that?

 

Another brilliant retort by sweetsara

Where did you hone your debate skills?

 

i will look into this but you are still not telling me anything about god. i am not debating islam with you i want to know according to what you believe in or Judaism why this building is not the third temple.
the validity of islam has nothing to do with singularity of god.
mohamad could have stolen the whole thing but god is still god no ?!
just say you don't know ask your pastor if you want. i want to know the answer to this.i think there might be a test

 

Okay I'll answer your question I was actually waiting for the one you asked to tell you.

I had a couple other debates to tend to sorry to keep you waiting.

The dome of the rock is not a temple.

The third temple will be a place dedicated to GOD as a place of worship, GOD gave instructions on the exact layout of the temple in the BIBLE ( Torah ) and the third will be built by the same instructions.

The dome of the rock is not dedicated to GOD but to a rock that Abraham was going to sacrifice his son on before GOD stopped him.

 

where can i find this instructions?

 

Exodus 25:9
According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.

Exodus 25:8-10 (in Context) Exodus 25 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:1
Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubims of cunning work shalt thou make them.
Exodus 26:1-3 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:6
And thou shalt make fifty taches of gold, and couple the curtains together with the taches: and it shall be one tabernacle.
Exodus 26:5-7 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:7
And thou shalt make curtains of goats' hair to be a covering upon the tabernacle: eleven curtains shalt thou make.
Exodus 26:6-8 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:9
And thou shalt couple five curtains by themselves, and six curtains by themselves, and shalt double the sixth curtain in the forefront of the tabernacle.
Exodus 26:8-10 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:12
And the remnant that remaineth of the curtains of the tent, the half curtain that remaineth, shall hang over the backside of the tabernacle.
Exodus 26:11-13 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:13
And a cubit on the one side, and a cubit on the other side of that which remaineth in the length of the curtains of the tent, it shall hang over the sides of the tabernacle on this side and on that side, to cover it.
Exodus 26:12-14 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:15
And thou shalt make boards for the tabernacle of shittim wood standing up.
Exodus 26:14-16 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:17
Two tenons shall there be in one board, set in order one against another: thus shalt thou make for all the boards of the tabernacle.
Exodus 26:16-18 (in Context) Exodus 26 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 26:18
And thou shalt make the boards for the tabernacle, twenty boards on the south side southward.

That can get you started.

 

@imad
is there any records about this?

 

Congratulations Einstein. This is the same information I used to defend Ron Paul when you attacked him for being opposed to ALL foreign aid. That the Arab nations get more than Israel combined.

But the hypothetical in this thread posed by the OP is about the biblical right of Israel to support, financial and military to Israel.

Which is fine and dandy for private citizens. But if I'm an atheist, or a Muslim, or a Buddhist, or against Zionism, there is no reason why my government should act as a proxy and project my support against my will.

The government is bad enough redistributing wealth already. It props up politicians, bad departments, military industrial complex, etc. at the expense of the middle class and the poor.

That they ship the money overseas and hand it out to buy favors and religious blessings is ludicrous. That's why I hope Obama beats Clinton, and then McCain. He doesn't seem to be completely beholden to foreign lobbies.

 

Records of what that's how it was made by instruction by GOD.

What records do you need a picture or something?

 

do you have a study about this that a jewish authority have looked into this possibility
i want to know if there are similarities.

 

I'm sure your browser can reach google the same as mine.

If your interested you can research for yourself can't you?

 

I believe the congratulations are due to you. I've used this argument many times. Ron Paul hates Israel. Like many others that do, he hides behind foreign aid issues to single out Israel, just as you did above.

Then you shouldn't have changed the subject by stating:

As I noted, your only contention (as usual) is with Israel.

There is no "I" in "We." "We" (loathe I am to say in the context of a response to you) are a country. If you don't like it, move to Iran. America does not revolve around your personal and political grievances.

Yeah, we know...America sucks, death to Israel, blah, blah, blah

Obama has said America will continue it's longstanding support to Israel if he is elected. Of course, he may not be telling the truth.

It really tugs at you that Israel gets support, but not a peep on those other countries, huh?

tsk tsk

 

You just contradicted yourself. Paul never singled out Israel. He is against foreign aid to all of those countries, and has specifically pointed out that the Arabs get more than Israel combined, so by cutting off funding to Israel's enemies, Israel would realize a net financial advantage.

Again, that's totally incorrect. The OP was specifically talking about Israel's divine right to foreign aid, hence why I was responding to Israeli foreign aid. You're really grasping at straws now. We actually agree, but you are trying to manufacture an argument.

There is an I in America. And it stands for independence. Not communist party politics or group think. This "we" crap is nonsense, it always has been. I am not complicit in your politics or the horrible decision making of the policies you endorse.

I'm just invoking the spirit of the greatest marine, Smedley Butler, as well as Presidents Eisenhower and Reagan. A conservative like yourself should have no problem with that.

Yeah, I'm hoping. Clinton and McCain both seem to put the Israeli lobby ahead of American domestic interests. In my opinion, that's treasonous.

Again, you're manufacturing an argument where one does not exist. I'd like to see all foreign aid end, to everyone. I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting the Federal Government from doing it.

Of course, they already don't have the right to do it. But it would be great to see it written in soft stone.

 

I never said they had a divine right to foreign aid.

I said GOD said HE would give them their land back and never uproot them again.

And if America stopped helping them that would look bad on the U.S. because America is their ally.

We both have the same enimies terrorists. Israel helps America with alot of intel on terror plots they aren't just sucking up money.

When America needs Israel they will be there to help with info ground and arms. The muslim countries we send aid to do not help with any of that.

 

Quite the contrary. As I previously stated and will state again, Ron Paul uses foreign aid as an issue for his hatred of Israel. To mask that hatred, of course he's going to admit aid for all countries if backed into a corner, but in the context of his whiney rants, it's always "Israel" who whom he rails against.

No, I simply responded to what you wrote. Don't be dishonest. You responded by railing against foreign aid to Israel, as usual, singularly. I responded to that. You changed the topic at that point and I simply followed. There's no call for dishonesty. Anyone following can go back up and see your post and see my response to it.

I disagree. "We" are a country and though you may believe America revolves around you singularly, it doesn't. I too, an not complicit in who you support, make excuses for, single out for praise, or outright support. But you have that right. If you don't like it, move to Iran.

Apparently you believe these gentlemen sat around on a forum all day bitching about the country they occupy while their wife goes off to earn a living. I see no correlation at all. I cannot even fathom how, with all of your posts here and the content of them, that you would dare to make a comparison of yourself to such great men. I guess it is true. Some men earn their greatness with their deeds. Other men steal the glory off the backs of others that put forth the effort to do something great.

I dare say you do not know the meaning of treason or you would not even use the word. Once again, we see Israel as your sole source of outrage. Were you not going to try and hide it anymore? Not sure you really could, at this point.

Do you care that others do not agree with that, or is it all about you and what you want? It's sounding a little fascist in here. Why is Israel the only country you singularly voice that opinion about? Come on, you can say it

 

Then why did he go against President Reagan and the Republican party to praise Israel for attacking Iraq in 1981?

Because Ron Paul tries to be a man of principle.

Uhm, whatever. People can go back and look. That's fine.

DO you type just because you like to see words on the screen? This section I just quoted from you isn't even coherent. Try lithium. It might help.

Smedley Butler and I agree on one thing for sure. "War is a racket".

Outrage? I haven't been outraged in days. I could care less what happens to Israel, I just don't want the fruits of my labor confiscated and donated to them, when I would rather help people like you who really need it here in America.

Well, obviously others would have to agree, or an amendment to the Constitution could not be made. Seriously GTech, are you feeling all right? Your posts don't make any sense.