Israeli control of Israel prophisied in the Bible.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ckrismoney, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #41
    See, it really is a noticeable pattern when one knows what to look for ;)

    Whether it's "all sides" or suddenly against "all aid" to others, with no other country but Israel mentioned.

    Too easy.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #42
    I have no problem with Israel destroying anyone who attacks or threatens them, but yep I guess I am against Israel, simply because I am against the US giving money it does not have to another nation, any nation NOT just Israel.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Nope wrong The God of Israel said HIS name is YAHWEH and HE would never leave Israel.

    The god of islam said his name is allah and he left Israel he doesn't sound dependable. What if he leaves islam next because of what they are doing.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #44
    are you saying two different god exist like two creator one for the muslems and one for the jews.
     
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  5. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #45
    No, I'm saying YAHWEH is the only GOD and that islam is a lie!
     
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    sweetsara Peon

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    #46
    Definitions of Allah on the Web:

    * The Arabic name for "God"; the word refers to the same God worshipped by Jews and Christians.
    www.caabu.org/index.asp

    The Muslim name for God used in the Holy Qur'an. Allah [CE] is equivalent to the monotheistic God of the Hebrew scriptures and the pre-trinitarian God of Christianity.
    members.aol.com/porchnus/dict01.htm


    Arabic word for "the Lord." In Muslim theology, the same God whom Christians and Jews worship (under the name Jehovah/Yahweh). Allah has 99 attributes, or descriptive names, such as "the Compassionate" and "the Merciful."
    www.juniata.edu/faculty/tuten/islamic/archive/glossary.html
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #47
    but we are not talking about islam we are talking about god
    we have a building that is built to pray to god of abraham and god of moses the god that created everything.
    so why this building is not the third temple.
    by the way both call their god hashem so you can use that instead of allah if you want.
    does any of the muslems object to this.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #48
    o apologize then i thought you were talking to me i do not read grims posts because iour interests are not really the same
     
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    imad Peon

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    #49
    don't forget the French, they worship a God called Dieu, don't you hear them when they say "Oh mon dieu!" :rolleyes:

    there is only one God thats what Muslims believe, and he does not leave anybody, whether Muslim or not.
     
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    sweetsara Peon

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    #50
    So much conflict and hate, i will treat you all to a wonderful amazing poem ;)

    When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up;
    When the stars fall, losing their lustre;
    When the mountains vanish (like a mirage);
    When the she-camels, ten months with young, are left untended;
    When the wild beasts are herded together (in the human habitations);
    When the oceans boil over with a swell;
    When the souls are sorted out, (being joined, like with like);
    When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned -
    For what crime she was killed;
    When the scrolls are laid open;
    When the world on High is unveiled;
    When the Blazing Fire is kindled to fierce heat;
    And when the Garden is brought near;-
    (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward.
    So verily I call to witness the planets - that recede,
    Go straight, or hide;
    And the Night as it dissipates;
    And the Dawn as it breathes away the darkness;-
    Verily this is the word of a most honourable Messenger,
    Endued with Power, with rank before the Lord of the Throne,
    With authority there, (and) faithful to his trust.
    And (O people!) your companion is not one possessed;
    And without doubt he saw him in the clear horizon.
    Neither doth he withhold grudgingly a knowledge of the Unseen.
    Nor is it the word of an evil spirit accursed.
    When whither go ye?
    Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds:
    (With profit) to whoever among you wills to go straight:
    But ye shall not will except as Allah wills,- the Cherisher of the Worlds.

    :cool:
     
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    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #51
    If you cant play nice put each other on ignore.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #52
    Thank you. I've put him on ignore and will keep him there, where he belongs.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #53
    I have no problem with Jews helping Jews, or anyone helping Jews for that matter. I do have a problem with everyone's money being earmarked for Israel, regardless of their need, and regardless of our domestic circumstances.

    Because if you want the Mexican American to help Mexico, how can he do that if his taxes are being sent to Israel?

    I understood it then, and I understand it now. And I am using it in the proper context. I have never implied that Israel is weak, and I challenge you to prove that I have.

    On the contrary, Israel is mightier than Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran combined with it's nuclear arsenal and advanced weaponry.

    So please untangle your underwear, have a coke and a smile.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #54

    No thanks.
     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #55
    It doesn't matter who says it's the same GOD HE has a set of standards.

    Anyone can change the standards in a book and say it's the same GOD it doesn't make it true.

    What if the Chinese say the same GOD talked to them and said his name was Chang Lee and that islam was wrong so he left them because of their ways.

    And now we have to pray in Chinese face China when we pray and make a pilgramige to China once in our life and pay the Chinese god Chang Lee a portion of all we make.

    And we have to dress like a 7th century Chinamen.

    But added it's still the same GOD of Israel.

    That would sound wrong to muslims.

    But it's the same thing they say.

    Why do we have to learn Arabic GOD speaks all languages. He didn't say we had to speak Hebrew or pray toward Israel or go to Israel once in our life.

    But tha Arabs come along and say all those things and say we have to pay tax to them and add it's the same god, that's insane and totally out of charecter for Who GOD is, it sounds racist to me.
     
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    sweetsara Peon

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    #56
    Where is the God of the world then if that is the God of Israel? Is there a God for every country?
     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Yes but HE said they are HIS chosen people to show the world Who HE is.

    HE gave predictions of what would happen in the world all the way to the end of it to prove HIMSELF to the world.

    And Israel becoming a nation again and never dispersing them again is one of HIS proofs and power. :D
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #58
    muslems say they believe in the god that created them and the jews and everybody else his name is hashem and it is the god of moses. is he the same god as yours or a different god or a fake god or what?
    also moses has said that there would be different profits for different people so there is no conflict there
    now the question is do you presume the responsibility of judging other peoples belief in god thereby declairig the judgment day mute and unnecessary because you have it under control ?
     
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    sweetsara Peon

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    #59
    http://muhammad.net/biblelp/index.htm
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #60
    But only Israel, right? At least that's the perception I was left with, not seeing any other country noted, as usual.

    Ironically, there's far more muslim aid given out when combined, than one little tiny Jewish country. But those names are often left out, for some *strange* reason:

    1. Israel 2.58 Billion
    2. Egypt 1.84 Billion
    3. Afganistan 0.98 Billion
    4. Pakistan 0.70 Billion
    5. Colombia 0.57 Billion
    6. Sudan 0.50 Billion
    7. Jordan 0.48 Billion
    8. Uganda 0.25 Billion
    9. Kenya 0.24 Billion
    10. Ethiopia 0.19 Billion
    11. South Africa 0.19 Billion
    12. Peru 0.19 Billion
    13. Indonesia 0.18 Billion
    14. Bolivia 0.18 Billion
    15. Nigeria 0.18 Billion
    16. Zambia 0.18 Billion

    http://shelby.senate.gov/legislation/ForeignAid.pdf
     
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