You are sick racist person, Palestine was a peaceful place for Christian, Muslims and Jews. NOW ITS JUST FOR JEWS. YOUR A RACIST SICK PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO PERVERT THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS
Should I give you many examples on what happened to Palestinians since Zionists entered Palestine (since before 1948 till now)?
I am sure you know, but using capital letters does not magically make your lies true. Israel has many non-Jewish citizens. Israel has non-Jewish members in government. The notion that Israel is only for Jews is just one of many lies you insist on telling here. If you ever had a valid point it would get lost in your constant posting of lies and half-truths. The idea that everything was all peaceful is a lie. Do you consider the 1929 Hebron attacks on Jews as part of this "peaceful place" as you called it? Are Jews accepted into Palestinian government and society? Your hatred is coloring everything you do. It must be a sad way to live, allowing hatred to fester within you until you can't tell lies from truth. I am sorry you feel so ashamed of yourself and your people that you feel the need to raise yourself up by attacking others. It is a sad condition.
Jews are the one attacking others, have you ever heard of the false your "anti-semetic" phrase that is used on people who critisize israel. Therefore your formula of attacking people becuase your ashamed of your people applised to YOU!! Tell me do you think people who Critize Israel are Anti-semetic?
People are free to criticize Israel any time they like and that does not make them antisemitic. People like you, who make accusations against people solely because they are Jewish are antisemitic. You say that anything a Jewish person does is propaganda. You claim that Jews run America and all media and they they all sell out America's interest for Israel. You are a textbook antisemite. I will call you on it anytime it is warranted by your posts.
I am sure you too know that repeating the same lies always does not make them facts: Fact #1—In 1890, 25,000 Jews lived in Palestine. Many Jews were so shocked when they came to Palestine & found it full of people that they spoke out against the injustice. source and more
What lies did I tell? By the way, nice site that seeks to impose a "Minimum and Maximum Wage in the US with the ultimate goal of leveling the playing field economically." That was among the more absurd ideas on that site you cited.
the lie you told that things were not peaceful for Jews in Palestine, in the contrary, things were excellent for them to a degree that they can find a shelter there, from the cruelty of Russia and Romania at that time against Jews, The 1929 revolt ( or Al-Buraq revolt) was caused after the Zionist call to the Jewish people to gather in the area of Al-Aqsa mosque, and raise calls for destroying it to build the claimed temple, that place is the 3rd most holy place for Muslims, who also kept other non-Muslim holy places safe, and secure, and even protected them during history against tries to destroy them, have you ever asked yourself, if your claims are true, then why Muslims did not destroy Christian holy places in Palestine, since they been there for more than 800 years, and in a time there was no other power that can defeat them? you judge people without power, when you should judge people who has the power, as for the site, as usual, since you rushed to post, and possibly assumed that everything I post is not trust worthy, you failed to notice that they quoted facts, and their sources are: Source: US Government, King-Crane Commission report, 1918 Source: United Nations General Assembly report on Palestine, Nov., 1947 besides, you can always check the validity of any claim from other sources if the info regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict are invalid, you can show your sources then, by this, you will give knowledge to whom do not know it, or know only a part of it, and for sure, it will be much better than showing yourself as a hater, impulsive person, who post before checking, and talk before thinking, which is very clear in your posts, and continuous accusations with antisemitism and lies to people.
I guess we differ on whether it was peaceful for the Jews in Hebron in 1929: The 1929 Hebron massacre refers to the mass murder of sixty-seven Jews on 23 and 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of the British Mandate of Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places. This massacre, together with that of Safed, sent shock waves through Jewish communities in Palestine and across the world. The survivors were forced to flee Hebron, and their property was seized by Arab residents and occupied until after the Six Day War of 1967.
This is a part of the uprising that took place after the Zionist call, you did not show your source for the above, but in the above quote it has no mention for the Arab victims who been killed in these events too, here are some more info about 1929 events: Al-Buraq Wall - a flashpoint September 1929 saw further serious unrest, this time centring on al-Buraq Wall. This site in the heart of old Jerusalem, known to Jews as the Wailing Wall, forms part of the western wall of the al-Aqsa mosque and is therefore viewed by Muslims as a sacred site not to be bought or sold. But at the end of the 1920s, a group of rabbis urged Jewish immigrants to gather at the wall to perform a public prayer. The aim after the call was to seize the wall, and declare it as a sacred place for Jews. Muslim Palestinians were outraged and clashes erupted. These confrontations swiftly turned into an uprising that spread across the country. Fights between Arab Palestinians and Jews backed by British occupation forces, continued for two weeks. Hundreds of Arab Palestinians and Jews were killed in the confrontations. In June 1930 the League of Nations sent a fact-finding committee, the International Commission for the Wailing Wall, to investigate the reasons behind the uprising. After five months of investigations, the committee concluded that the area around the wall was an Islamic endowment, but that the Jews could continue their prayers at the wall with certain restrictions. the quote you posted also ignored the investigation (Shaw commission) that was done by the Britons about these events, which said:
I am not sure what you are arguing with me about. We both agree that it was not all peaceful in 1929. We agree that there were incidents between Muslims and Jews. Without agreeing on the details, we agree the events happened. So why are you wasting all this time challenging my statement that it was not all peaceful for Jews in Hebron in 1929?
I can say the same, and tell you, why it was not peaceful for Arabs before 1929, you keep ignoring the fact, that the violence happened because there was a Zionist project, to take over Palestine the historical state for Palestinian people, let me give you a very simple example that you can understand: if you are in your house, and I was your guest, then I said, this room is mine, and wanted to change its decoration, will you be peaceful with me? of course long before this you been very peaceful with me, and opened your house doors for me, you may ask me to leave politely, or not to do so, but at the end, when this all does not work, I do not think you will be peaceful with me any longer, so you punched me, now, I will go and cry to neighbors, oh, browntwn is terrorist, he is violent, he punched me, can't you see my bleeding nose??????? without telling them what led to this, will this be ok? what is the normal then for neighbors to do, say Imad was a victim of browntwn, and that browntwn should be punished? or ask, what happened? Zionism declared its project long before 1929, you can refer to UN documents and read about their conferences, in which they were undecided yet on where their "homeland" should be, they at some time had two options, Argentina, or Palestine, they picked Palestine, as if there were no people, who has the right of self determination there, I hope this will make it clear for you.
In one breath you say it was peaceful and excellent for the Jews, and then in the next breath you try to justify the violence against them. Just pick one story and stick to it.
lets get one step before that, your post was in reply to swaymedia post, in which he said "Palestine was a peaceful place for Christian, Muslims and Jews." which is very true until Zionists came, with dirty project to steal else land by force. your reply was: "The idea that everything was all peaceful is a lie. Do you consider the 1929 Hebron attacks on Jews as part of this "peaceful place" as you called it?" of course, you did not ask swaymedia, when was it peaceful for Jews? and when it became non-peaceful for them? and you accused him of antisemitism (as usual) and that he tells half truths, while I see, you are the one who tells half truths, you mentioned 1929 events, without mentioning the Arabs victims, in addition, you did not mention what led to them, and most important, you did not mention that before this, it was very peaceful for Jews, to a degree that they found shelter in Palestine from Europe prosecution. Palestine, was a very peaceful place for Jews, but Palestine, will never be a safe place for terrorists, thieves, occupiers.
1. Yes, I was talking to swaymedia, but you chose to answer. 2. swaymedia is an antisemite as shown in his various posts in this forum. 3. I did mention the cause of the 1929 masacre: False rumors! (By the way, how many Arabs were killed in the Hebron Massacre?) 4. Jews did find peace in Israel that they did not find in Europe. Do you think Israel has a right to exist? I think there should be a Palestinian state next to Israel.
1. this is a public forum, anybody can post their opinion as long as they follow the forum rules, if you want to talk to swaymedia, and only swaymedia, you can use private message feature, which is found on the upper right corner just below "welcome, browntwn." 2. I m not here to defend swaymedia, he can do it if he found there is a need, but I really do not think he is antisemite, if you believe he is, you can report him. 3. it was not false rumors, as I posted later in the quotes, which has sources, unlike your post, and I also included a link to the investigation that took place at that time, you can search online for more info of course. 4. so why are they complaining now? Jews found peace in Palestine which is true, they found welcoming Arabs, but when things turned to become taking over Arabs land, things changed, Palestinians have the right to defend themselves against the cleansing, and crimes they are facing since long before 1948.
You can post to me, I was not implying otherwise. As far as swaymedia is concerned, his antisemitism speaks for itself. But what does that have to do with reporting him? There is nothing against the rules in being an antisemite - it is just calling him for what he is. Israel complains now because Hamas and other attack them. The Palestinians should concentrate their energies on building their nation, not tearing Israel down. If the rest of the Muslim world spent their money and energy helping the Palestinians instead of supporting attacks on Israel the Palestinian state would already be. The Palestinians should take the land that they have been given and start living as a peaceful state already.
without going much into details about the accuracy of the definition you used for antisemitism: the forum rule says: "Personal attacks include any attacks on someone's personal life, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ETHNICITY, or personal habits. " Israel always has something to complain about, knowing that Israel is an abnormal state which been established on expelling hundreds of thousands of the native inhabitants of the lands by force, and which depends heavily on force for its existence, its normal for them to keep complaining to keep the support coming, because with no foreign support, it can't survive in an unnatural medium. before Hamas been established in 1987, they were complaining because Fatah, and before Fatah been established they were complaining because "Arabs want to throw them in sea" and before Arabs want to throw them in sea, they were complaining because Britons wanted to limit the numbers of Jewish emigrants to Palestine, and before Britons wanted to limit the number of Jewish illegal emigrants to Palestine, they were complaining because Hitler wanted to kill all Jews, now they are complaining because Muslims "want to kill all Jews" and oh, they get so mad if Arabs complained because they expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their historical land, or if Arabs complained for the cleansing they practice since before 1948 against Palestinians, or if Arabs complained if they seized lands to "protect Israel" but in fact they build settlements on these lands and it becomes part of Israel that in its turn needs protection. You can't give land to Palestinians because you do not own it, Israel does not own the land to decide to give it to the Palestinians, Palestinians are the owners of the land and they did not offer it for sale, and never gave it as a gift.
pizzaman, first at all, just 25% of the Israeli-Arabs calling themselves "Palestinians". second, of course i can enter to those areas, it's under Israeli control. moreover, without the Jews that eating in their restaurants and doing shopping in their markets, how they will survive?
Zionism build an israel country on a terror. It is clear that israel is doing terror. It is sad that USA gov , Bush is supporting israel. Finally Abbas understood that if Bush is supporting israel, jews, there can not be any peace in Palestin