Israel snubs Jimmy Carter and declines security help

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  1. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #41
    When a president(Bush) or his army killing innocent ppls it is called .. "oh dear , it is war, it happens"
    When others doing it is called terrorism..

    Victim is a victim.. Victim doesnt have color,race, religion.. they are victims.. If in USA killed innocent ppls, and victims we must call them victims, and it is for Iraq and Afghanistan..

    If some one making 9/11 , we must call it terrorism act, and if some one(USA army) bombing innocent ppls in Iraq, Afghanistan, it must be called terrorism act,crime too.
    Being a president doesnt change anything
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #42
    Source? I'm wondering if maybe you are repeating things you've read on forums, but not necessarily confirmed?

    Am I safer? I'm not like some here, where the world revolves around just me. Is my country safer? You bet. Shouldn't even be a question, though there are probably a few unstable minds that would attempt to alter reality and say otherwise. Hasn't been a terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, and last count I read, some 25+ plots had been thwarted. Remember, I root for the home team ;)

    I don't subscribe to the notion that we should just let islamists attack our country because their holy book calls for them to do so. These are not people that are interested in negotiating. They honestly believe they are going to heaven to get some virgins for killing non-believers. Is there anyone that doesn't realize that?
     
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  3. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #43
    25+ plots from 9/11 seems to be an increase to the trends before 9/11 so we have an increase in attempts
    borders are open and cargo from the ships are not checked. reporters pass some stuff by airport security every once in a while.
    afganistan is still not stable and we keep on dropping million dollar bombs on mud huts. and we can not defeat the donkey riding mighty taliban army lol
    the only reason that iraq is better is that democrats finally succeeded to get rid of rumsfeld so all and all i wish we had a different president.
    now how about my other question why carter is antisemitic ?
     
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  4. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Imo the U.S. Secret Service has the power to protect their former President and they don't need the help of Israil secret service.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #45
    I disagree. That's speculation. There were plots throughout the 90s and a number of them successful. Terrorism wasn't taken as seriously back then, as it is today.

    While it may be simplistic to look at a country the size of California and say "we" can't get a few donkey riders there, the fact is, we have. Keeping in mind, these people do not fight in uniform, blend in with the civilian population and it is a massive area with very remote mountains. It's probably easier to say something, without taking into account the enormous magnitude involved.

    Why is Carter anti-semitic? I don't know. You'll have to ask him. Perhaps a great deal of his staff that walked out on him a year or two ago because of his book could give some insight.

    Do you believe Carter is anti-semitic too? If not, why?
     
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  6. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #46
    Carter negotiated a peace treaty between two groups of semites.

    Only in La-La Land could that be called anti-semetic.

    You gotta love the neocons and their doublespeak. Now going to Israel as an advocate of peace means you are a racist. Crazy stuff.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #47
    No surprise someone with similar views would try to mask Carter's anti-semitism.

    Obviously all those working for him that left, were just in la-la-land (a RP troofer convention).

    Yep, gotta love those that use "neocon" as a code word for Jews.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #48
    why speculation? you said that he has stopped 25
    nobody stopped them and we had fewer so it seems that it is increased
    excuses like this was around about iraq till rumsfeld was removed i think it has more todo with a bad strategy than anything else.
    i meant why do you think carter is antisemitic? as you called him that.
    although i have not formed a solid opinion about this i find myself reluctant to call him that.i do not even know if disagreement with Israeli govt should be considered antisemitic
     
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  9. swaymedia

    swaymedia Active Member

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    #49
    Jimmy Carter is hated by them, just becuase he supports peace
     
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  10. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #50
    You are a neoconservative though GTech.

    You are a former Democrat who sided with the Republicans because they were in power and pursued your twin goals of welfare and warfare. You're a bigoted nationalist, who claims to be a Christian, but doesn't believe in human rights for non-Americans.

    You endorse fascism, the betrayal of human rights, and have a fundamental disrespect for the law. You make up history as you go, and you insult and attack anyone who calls you on your ignorance of the subject matter or hypocrisy.

    You don't have to be Jewish. You just have to be a hyper-patriotic with delusions of ideological supremacy.
     
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  11. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    #51
    Sounds about right.
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #52
    I'll third that. :D
     
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  13. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #53
    Fourth'd, hit the nail on the head Guerilla! But you also forgot to mention GTech from Texas is fulfilling all the Texan sterotypes haha :D
     
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  14. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #54
    There are a lot of cool people from Texas. GTech is not one of them.
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #55
    For sure, it is the same story all along, if you say anything about Israel, you are a Jew hater, if you are Jewish and say anything about Israel you are a self-hating Jew (Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein) .

    All I can ask is GTech if you love Israel so much why don't you move to Tel Aviv?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #56
    and if you still think RP will win the GOP nomination then you are delusional....so whats your point?
     
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  17. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #57
    You are right dman, if i thought that, i would be dillusional. Thanks for pointing out that random fact...:confused:
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #58
    Projectionism and personal attacks. Sadly, I've come to not expect much more when someone is trying to mask anti-semitism.

    I'm held to a higher standard, so not much else I can say.
     
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  19. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #59
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    you sound like a broken record
     
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  20. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #60
    GTech won't move to Tel Aviv because he's not Jewish. He's a Christian Zionist. His job is to play brownshirt in America, attacking anyone who questions the Israeli government, by labelling them anti-semetic and implying that they hate Jews.

    The irony of which, is that when he calls me anti-semetic, he obviously hasn't read that I have been trying to convert to Judaism online for 2 days now. Pretty soon, I'm going to be Jewish.
     
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