Israel Project a charity (Yea right)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Toopac, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #261
    First time I see the full footage.
    LOL
    Its funny to see a common man, in the level of the grocery market, sitting between statesmen and intellectuals and bashing personally against poor old Peres on regional politics during the "world economy forum", which was not meant for that purpose. Then they tried to shut him up because he was ashaming the forum in his primitiveness...
    I'm sure you admire him for turning the "world economy forum" into a political circus and putting Turkey to laughter as a country. Everything is in the name of Allah, isn't it so? ;) He kinda reminds me the difficulties of the other jihadists here on this forum to understand the topic of debate and to make arguments instead of mummbling the usual propaganda according to "the narrative".

    http://www.asbarez.com/2009/11/09/erdogan-defends-al-bashir-says-muslims-incapable-of-genocide/
    here he defends Omar al-Bashir, murderer of 250,000 people in darfur, because "he is muslim".
    I'm sure you voted for him. He tries to make Turkey look like Iran, i'm sure that this is your dream too.
     
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  2. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #262
    Then you don't listen to prime Minister , do you ?

     
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    #263
    he does ... only when it suits him .. and he decides what democracy is OK and what democracy is terrorist

    @chos
    why only complain about grocery retailers .. they also had some 'butchers' at the place ..i.e human butchers
     
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  4. ChaosTrivia

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    #264
    Why do you I have to clarify everything like a kindergarden teacher?
    I don't listen to rabbis. I try to listen to MY prime minister, not yours - who has an intellect level that does not qualify him to work in pizza delivery. the "emotional muslim".
     
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    #265
    yes, may be a slaughter house is more suited for yours :D
     
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    #266
    I came across this a few weeks ago and basically it helped me understand the games these sick people play to justify their running of the worlds biggest concentration camp and I really do mean IT IS a concentration camp.

    If you define concentration camp you will see it is a small, overpopulated place where prisoners are confined under harsh conditions with under armed guards and as you can see gaza ticks all of them boxes. How can you be a country when your are required to smuggle food in just for survival.
     
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  7. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #267
    You mean Netanyahu or Peres?
     
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  8. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #268
    Here's a challenge Chaos if your prepared to take it, I'm sure you will as you want to be crystal clear right?

    1. Even though you have explained a "zillion times" (as you say).
    2. ...And...
    3. Even though I'm having great difficultly of putting the "shooting of unarmed kids by Israel from tanks" in to the correct "context" after you claim to have done so.

    Can you be concise and clear, in your next post? Don't include links to other posts, or quote any other quotes from this thread - To make it uber simple for me?

    Simply quote the chapter as you posted it previously the ("in-context" one) and highlight from that chapter, what you believe qualifies the quote from that chapter - the quote from that chapter is below.

    The feeling among the liberal elite is that Israel uses all of its advancements and advantages “unfairly” or “immorally” against the Palestinians. Israel is so rich and so strong that they fail to see why it is necessary for armored tanks to shoot at unarmed kids

    Can you do that yes or no? Don't get too 'complex' just chose one answer from "yes" or "no".

    Also I'm sure many reading this thread would appreciate a clear answer in just one post which is "in-context", I'm sure you would agree with that?

    That's very reasonable isn't it?

    Can you help us at all Mr Chaos or will you refuse?
     
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  9. ChaosTrivia

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    #269
    The answer is: No.
    For the simple reason that you, new, and ziya are the only ones who experience difficulties in reading in its correct context instead of as you want to read it. I am not a kindergarden teacher not a reading comprehension for 3rd graders teacher. sorry.
    If so far you have demonstrated any ability to debate smartly and on context or to write wise things that will make me think, not to mention teach me something new, I would have gone through this bother (which takes to post the whole chapter and explain you why what you want to think it says just do not fit in there), but this is not the case.

    And for you, its Dr. Chaos :D
     
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    #270
    I think you missed something above
     
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  11. Toopac

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    #271
    Ugh your no fun!

    But you don't need to be right? You entered the thread made your position known (that position being it's not in context) normally people tell you what context it's in. Otherwise what's the point debating?

    I mean those of us that believes it means what it says have stated so, and also the Muslims here put the Quran quotes in context for you, didn't they? Fairs fair.

    Well I didn't introduce strawmans, that's something surely something (smart debating)?

    Yes that's kind of it, but you could make it simpler so that it takes less time, you could just highlight the bits that show us why they said "shooting unarmed kids from Israeli tanks" (sic) is "ok" or whatever, right?

    Are you serious? you're a doctor?

    So what do you say?
     
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  12. ChaosTrivia

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    #272
    no I didn't. I just lost hope that you could learn something which is slightly related with reality and/or real history. But yeah, since you insist, lets make another attempt:

    Naturally, I was not speaking about the whole ottoman empire, but on the territory of modern turkey. The ethnic cleansing of the greeks took place in the 20's, after modern turkey was established, and also after the genocide of the Armenians.

    Couple of years ago I finally found time to read Prof. Rummel's important book "Statistics of Democide", one of the most comprehensive analytical academic works on the genocides and ethnic purges of the 20th century, where Turkey has earned itself a full chapter, chapter 5.
    unfortunately in the online version of the book chap. 5 is not available, but I found a recap of chapter 5 at his university's website: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP5.HTM

    Read more about Turkey's version of "muslim tolerance": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Pogrom and the "aftermath".
     
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  13. Toopac

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    #273
    So Doc, still no??
     
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    #274
    ChaosTrivia, by the way elder Netenyahu is a racist too.
     
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    #275
    of course he is racist, he is Israeli. Only the Turkish are a non-racist nation ;)
     
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    #276
    "The Arabs"
     
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    #277
    lol. ziya, I didn't know you like to read fairy tales.
     
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    #278
    what 'naturally' ? there was no Turkey in 1900 :rolleyes: and you mentioned about Turkey
    why do you want to mislead others by spreading false information ? .. the ottoman empire of 1900 did not have similar boundaries as Turkey

    and from where did you find that
    ?
     
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    #279
    new, concentrate. Try to concentrate. focus man.
    What I said is not that complicated and I'm sure that if you'll concentrate enough u'll be able to understand it. FOCUS!
    good luck.
    Peace bro, we believe in you. show us what u've got. don't let us down.

    your challenge, the extremely difficult sentence to understand, is:
     
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    #280
    still looking that from where you came up with

     
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