Israel preparing to attack Iran...

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  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #341
    china or X no difference to me.. Reason has nothing to do with it. I do not see any of these two would make a difference in what we are talking about. If israel wants to start a war they should do so without expecting US to get involved.
    again US reserve the option of getting involved, but that is not something that israel should expect or something that us would necessarily do
     
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  2. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #342
    Israel, Canada, England, Germany are allies yes?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #343
    yes. it should apply to them also.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #344
    Where is Israel starting a war again?
     
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  5. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #345
    i never said she did but this is what tread is about. isn't it?
    now do you agree with what i said or not?
     
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  6. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #346
    Restate what you said again.
     
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  7. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #347
    here it was.
     
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  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #348
    As the article stated. It is somewhere in the future just to keep face, nothing else. I think everybody would do the math frst of the whole project. This attempt is a desperate move to hide real intentions. Russia sent fuel already. Now does it work and why is Iran reluctant to hinder international observations?
     
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  9. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #349
    We do not need to follow blindly into a conflict. The Allies would confer before a war isstarted. We would be involved if one of our Allies were attacked. Thats why we have Allies
     
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  10. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #350
    How about the NIE. it said that they have stooped their weapon program.
    can you trump NIE ? what is a better source than that?
     
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  11. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #351
    if our Allies are attacked then absolutely.
    if our Allies attack we are obligated to nothing for nobody.We should not support any country attacking another country.
    are you going to take a position on this or are you going to avoid the central question
     
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  12. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #352
    NIE cooled down the heat to win time for negotiations by announcing such a lie and all they are left with is assuming in any way. Iran was very close to get attacked the time when the announcement was made.

    A few bits and pieces of telephone conversations catched during years of secret observations prove nothing, believe it or not.
     
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    ChrisMiller Prominent Member

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    #353
    Wow...Yea this isn't good i have clients that live in both Country's...

    -Chris
     
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  14. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #354
    source? all i hear is the same thing as what was said before iraq. from the same people. when did the think thanks stooped thinking.
    eit: i think right there and then we should have made a deal with them.
     
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  15. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #355
    Don't take for granted what mass media tries to feed you.

    Check out the lawsuit running in Germany now to get a glimpse of how things are handled, its public.

    Kahn, the father of the nuclear bomb in Pakistan and his proxies were very advanced already, by supplying to Iran, Lybia, North Korea and others. Nobody wants to see these facts?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #356
    there is no evidence what so ever. you are letting your imagination get the best of you. IAEA does not say anything about irans weapon program. If you have a claim you have to show it. You believe in conspiracy theories
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #357
    You're in Michigan and you have clients in Iran?

    How do you avoid violating Executive Order 13059?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #358
    This is blatantly untrue. Have you read the IAEA report? Here is a small part:

    23. The Agency is continuing to assess the information and explanations provided by Iran. However, at this stage, Iran has not provided the Agency with all the information, access to documents and access to individuals necessary to support Iran’s statements. In light of the discussion on 14 May 2008, the Agency is of the view that Iran may have additional information, in particular on high explosives testing and missile related activities, which could shed more light on the nature of these alleged studies and which Iran should share with the Agency.

    25. Although the Agency did not detect any nuclear activities at Kolahdouz or Parchin (GOV/2003/75 para. 10, GOV/2005/67 para. 41, GOV/2005/87 para. 46, 2006/15 para. 32), the role of military related institutes, such as the Physics Research Center (PHRC), the Institute of Applied Physics (IAP) and the Education Research Institute (ERI) — and their staff — needs to be better understood, also in view of the fact that substantial parts of the centrifuge components were manufactured in the workshops of the Defence Industries Organization (GOV/2004/11 para. 37 and GOV/2004/34, para. 22). The Agency also needs to understand fully the reasons for the involvement of military related institutions in procurement for the nuclear programme.

    27. The alleged studies on the green salt project, high explosives testing and the missile re-entry vehicle project remain a matter of serious concern. Clarification of these is critical to an assessment of the nature of Iran’s past and present nuclear programme.[/U] Iran has agreed to address the alleged studies. However, it maintains that all the allegations are baseless and that the data have been fabricated. source pdf


    The IAEA does not support your constant refrain that Iran is doing nothing suspect. Feel free to argue against an attack on Iran, but at least be honest about the facts. The IAEA has in no way said that Iran is not making nuclear weapons. They have said that Iran refuses to provide the information to make that type of conclusion. Feel free to read more directly from the IAEA here
     
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  19. imad

    imad Peon

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    #359


    Iran does not have to respond to open lists of accusations from paranoid Israel and from the USA, whom both have benefits from launching another war in the Middle East, and whom both too showed their very willingness in lying, faking, to provoke wars, knowing this, person should be careful before taking anything Israel or USA say for granted, specially if it was accusations that is not based on concrete information

    there is something for everybody in IAEA report:

    by the way, since when does USA and Israel care about IAEA and UN? only if it has something that goes along with their aims in starting wars, if not, they are not important like in Iraq.
     
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    #360
    imad:

    Are you seriously arguing that the Iranians are not developing nuclear weapons?

    Or, are you arguing that the Iranians should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons?
     
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