Israel is peaceful ?!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Elberengy, Nov 28, 2010.

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  1. Elberengy

    Elberengy Member

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    #21
    Currently I live in Egypt , Laws prevent Marriage before the age of 18 or 16 I'm not so sure . BTW you should differentiate between religion and culture , what you see in Muslim societies is Culture not Islam .
    One of my favorite quotations is for a Muslim Scholar who lived in England and Egypt , He said " When I went to Europe , I found Islam but no Muslims . When I went to Egypt I found Muslims but no Islam " . Societies don't express the Religion itself .

    And @Will.Spencer , Would you mind waiting for my reply after 6 Hours ? as I have to go now for statistics course .

    Thanks .
     
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    #22
    I saw 5 members viewing he thread at the same time for first time.

    There are currently 5 users browsing this thread. (5 members and 0 guests)

    laxman363,babak44,Elberengy,medoo289,Victoria B,
    :D
     
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  3. Victoria B

    Victoria B Peon

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    #23
    Epic! Incredible intervention and most supported by me.
     
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    #24
    you meant in Europe men can marry 9 years old girls but you can't do it in Egypt!? that's exciting!

    Laxman
    please don't reveal my secret!
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #25
    Unicef says "Data from Egypt indicates that 29 per cent of married adolescents have been beaten by their husbands (or husband and others) and, of these adolescents, 41 per cent have been beaten during pregnancy. "

    Free Muslims reports "In Egypt, too, the struggle against underage marriages has intensified following the recent increase in such marriages in several villages and cities. In 2009, roughly 9,300 incidents of marriage under the legal age were recorded, most of them in the districts of Cairo, Al-Mansura, and Tanta." and "Egyptian National Human Rights Council member Samia 'Abd Al-Ghani Al-Mutim pointed out that the increase in these crimes had led to a trend of temporary marriage of young girls to wealthy Arabs, for example, over summer break or holidays, in exchange for a payment of 5,000-10,000 Egyptian pounds, divided among the go-between and attorney involved, the girl's family, and the clerics performing the marriage. A report by Egypt's National Council for Childhood and Motherhood stated that 74% of girls in the villages of Abu-Nimris, Al-Hawamidiyya, and Al-Badrashin had been subjected to such temporary marriages." Wow... 74% of young girls in those villages are sold into sex slavery by their own parents -- thanks Muhammad!

    Still... I guess it's better that more pure Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia.
     
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    mi25 Active Member

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    #26
    Every child killed by Israel is used as human shield by the terrorists. Therefor they deserve to die. It doesn't matter if UN repeatedly asks Israel to stop savage acts against humanity. It doesn't meter if Israel uses weapons of mas destruction against civilians. As long as the casualties are Muslims they all deserve to die.
    A Jewish life is worth much more than any other human being.
    I have always wonder how could it be possible for the Nazis and they supporters to hate Jews so much ? How could it be possible for a race to be hated in to the extreme and in to the point of millions of innocent people to be massacred ?
    I really don't want to believe it but the massacres of innocent children by Israels army below gives me an answer.

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    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Even their new generation is brainwashed very well :(

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    Why you always give evidence from the websites who are anti islamic? and banned in Muslim countires because they provide fake translation of Quran and incomplete verse?

    may be you can find out the ans of this question from the anti chiristan website (Which is banned because but i used google chache option for you

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/abu-afak_rebuttal.htm
     
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    fastreplies Banned

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    #28
    Israeli Invaders???
    I have 3 words for you: Six days War

    And now I will ask you:
    who started that War?

    Point me to single treaty signed by Palestinians where they agreed to recognize Israel?

    So, what you basically saying, that if Israel dismantle Army there will be peace
    and terrorist's activities committed by brainless Muslims will end.

    Are you fucking nuts?

    :p

    fastreplies
     
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  9. Elberengy

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    #29

    Well those Statistics are mainly for countryside and villages not People who Live in the Capital . Personally I live in Cairo and I have never saw an underage marriage . Yeah it happens sometimes but not as wide as you think . Also please differentiate between Culture , Traditions and Religion . Poor people / Peasant here don't even have good or religious education so their acts only express traditions they had grown up to . I'm not racist regarding poor people actually , but I just want to show you the difference between the Religion and Traditions . Don't take your knowledge from google search .

    Regarding Saudia Arabia , They have good points like laws regarding theft , and bad rules like not allowing women to drive . I guess they aren't allowed to drive for a religious reason maybe you think ?
     
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    #31
    What?!
    People die in armed conflicts?
    amazing news.

    p.s. The source of the picture in the OP is unknown. It could be the earth quake in Turkey or haiti.
    One thing is for sure, if that was an Israeli girl in this situation, the images would not have spread all over the internet like that. In Israel they respect the dead while Muslims dance on their children's blood, esp' the Hamas.
    A culture of life, science, and democracy vs. a culture of death, ignorance, and dictatorship.
     
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    #32
    good points really. yeah it's not fair to share some photos and take some judgments about them but don't clarify the story behind them and reasons.
    I agree that most of Israeli people shown better culture but personally I don't see things in binary mode.
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

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    #33
    Q. What would it take for Israel to achieve peace today?
    A. Commit national suicide.

    Q. What would it take for the Muslims to achieve peace today?
    A. Quit attacking people.

    That pretty much sums up the entire situation.
     
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    #34
    They are banned in Islamic countries for telling the truth about Islam. Muslims are terrified of the truth and they hide from it.

    Christians at least have learned not to be terrified of the truth. When will Muslims grow up at least that much?

    If I bury my head in the sand I never see anything wrong either.

    SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT of female children used as sex slaves. That is not LESS than I thought -- it is MORE than I thought.

    This behavior exists across most "cultures" where Islam has placed it's dark tentacles. This isn't an Egyptian phenomena, it's an Islamic phenomena.

    The Ayatollah Khomeini was an Iranian Muslim, not an Egyptian Muslim. Here's what he had to say on the matter:
    "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."​

    Here's another:
    A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]​

    I don't believe that the Egyptians invented either Nikāḥ al-Mut‘ah or Nikah Misyar. I think you need to stop blaming the "Egyptian culture" and start placing the blame where it truly belongs.
     
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    #35
    these kind of webs are banned in Muslim countries because such kind of webs (anti Islamic, Anti chirist, etc) spreading cyber terrorism among people, and washing brains of people like you ;)
     
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    #36
    Yeah, I hear every day about non-Muslims blowing themselves up in Islamic nations. :rolleyes:

    It must be terrifying to be afraid of the truth -- because the truth is everywhere. It surrounds us. Muslims must spend so much time avoiding the truth that they don't have much time left over to build their nations out of poverty.
     
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    #37
    According to the cyclical nature of history, I wouldn't doubt at all that the Israelites believe God has entitled them to the land that Palestinians are currently occupying. Whether they're correct has yet to be decided though, and it has cost a lot of lives, women and children included.

    What I don't understand is why you're drawing attention to it - everyone already knows. No one cares. A fraction of our population in the states goes into the service and does real work abroad to aid 3rd world and developing countries. An even fewer are major contributers to charities that may help from here within the states...

    The rest are perfectly content NOT seeing images like the one you showed because we live in a peaceful democracy that is protected at the borders from terrorists and crazies. You won't get a lick of support or actual ACTION by showing a dead kid. Our reaction? WHO CARES, IT'S NOT MY KID.

    Now if we had terror attacks on the US again and more of OUR children were lost, I bet your sweet ass that we'd be rolling out soldiers on a production line and PUNISHING countries that harbor terrorists - maybe even assimilating them into our Borg-ish culture.

    We rape your veils. We trod on your morals. We kill your first born sons. Islamic Fundamentalism may have suicide bombers and AK's. Christian Fundamentalism still has tactical nukes, napalm, waterboarding and billions of dollars on credit for whatever toys we want to blow you up with.

    You have the population advantage - We can make up for it though. Trust us - we are not to be tread upon. Our bite will not kill you. It paralyzes you and makes you into US.
     
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    #38
    That's really weird cuz just the other day I saw on facebook a post that said Muslim schools in the UK were teaching their students that the punishment for sodomy is death.

    These quotes kinda fly in the face of that.... Not sure which side is accurate. Not planning trips to the middle east to find out.

    Sometimes I wish we'd find another habitable planet or learn to terraform so that those who choose NOT to share a world with people like the one quoted here can leave... or maybe we can just round up all the sickos and ship them off to Alcatraz World 2.0
     
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    #39
    Which secret.
     
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    #40
    What guidelines...no wonder some countries are like hell. Disgusting
     
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