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Israel Deserves Their Promised Land Because

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by webwork, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #41
    According to you, most recent generations of Jews were forced to flee from Europe. Don't you think they should get compensated back in Europe from where they were forced to move which was the birth place of their generations and not in Middle East.
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #42
    Sure, here you go :)

     
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  3. Amired

    Amired Peon

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    #43
    this land was not occupied by the Palestenians, they were not such a big pupolation here. if they were, the UN wouldn't have given us our independence. when our war of independence began we didn't fight the other people we defened ourselves from iraq,lebanon,syria,egypt etc.. we did not start the war. they did. they started it on the 15.5.1948, when just a day before, 14.5.1948 we declared our independence.
    who are we stealing land from? we were here way before just not as an "official" state. search google for "british mandate in israel" and you'll see that jewish lived here way before 1948, and a lot of them.

    if our intention was to steal land than GAZA wasn't functioning as an independent authority.. but they do.
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #44
    So, in 1948, how many Europeans were in Israel, vs how many Semetic Arabs were in Israel.

    Why did the invading Europeans, who were themselves trying to get away from persecution in their home countries, decide to persecute an entire population, who had nothing to do with their ordeal. If Germany drove you out of your homes, why didn't you carve a home country for yourself in Germany itself, instead of creating the World's largest refugee population, and occupying a foreign population for more than 4 decades.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #45
    Do you know any other word other than 'nit picking?'
    I believe I have already stated it, would you open your eyes?
    #1 It is way to difficult to know who would be entitled to land or compensation under your flawed logic. Land has been stolen back and forth for centuries, fought via war, sold out from under the citizens. Citizens themselves have moved back and forth, country to country.
    #2 I do not believe compensation is in order.
    #3 All you'd be doing is stealing from someone else to give back to someone you hope at one point in time had an ancestor living on said land, who knows if they even owned land, they could have just been a tenant. A bit to Robin hoodish for me, blindly throwing land around and hoping someone who deserves it gets it.

    Finally back to your crude and horrible example of stolen property, if you're going to use that as an example to stealing land to give it back to someone 'you hope' deserves it I suggest you also put the statue in where someone who receives stolen property goes directly to jail. There is your compensation.

    You must honestly have no clue of history if you actually think going around and taking land back and giving it to a 'supposed' ancestor could or should actually be attempted. Empires, tribes, cities, countries have fallen over and over and over and over again. Many could claim ancestor ties to multiple civilizations.

    No it is not moral nor is it possible to steal land from those who currently have it in hopes that it gets back to someone who you feel has more right to it, nor is it right to steal the money from the citizens to 'compensate' the person having their land stolen from. The government after all gets their money from the citizens of their land.
    Your stances are so piss poor there is no need to 'present' anything. I however have taken 2 seconds to present something for you, are you happy now?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #46
    Read post number 42, its the answer.

    Happy to see another truth-lover on DP, Amired :)

     
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  7. Amired

    Amired Peon

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    #47
    this topic is not going anywhere, most of your replies are motivated and/or affected by the media/press/news and all of that. i don't think you know what's really going on. just a few months ago an arab suicide bomber blew himself up right next to where my mom works.. and another one next to where my grand-parents live. WHY GO SO FAR? SEARCH GOOGLE FOR "GILAD SHALIT - A KIDNAPPED SOLDIER" or "ELDAD REGEV" or "EHUD GOLDWASSER" or even "RON ARAD". he's kidnapped for over 22 years.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #48
    where do you live amired? what city what country?
     
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  9. Amired

    Amired Peon

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    #49
    Jerusalem, Israel.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #50
    do they have sat in israel? what is sat
     
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    Amired Peon

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    #51
    I didn't understand your question please re-phrase :)
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #52


    do you have sat in israel?
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #53
    Ok, so if I move my whole family and other relatives to Nevada or Australia where vast land is empty, purchase the land and claim it as a country with U.N. backing it up. Will this be right thing to do?
     
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    Amired Peon

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    #54
    I don't think the U.N will back you up on this.
    sure we do..
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #55
    Heh I live in Jerusalem too :D
    Did you just make 006 or 003? I had 006 from 13:00-15:00, it was hard :eek:


    The palestinians didnt have a country on that land, Nevada and Australia do, dont talk nonsense.

     
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    Amired Peon

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    #56
    i did 005 it was ok.. send me a pm saying where do you study :)
     
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    imad Peon

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    #57
    which media exactly a person in USA might be effected with? Al-Jazeera?

    those names you mentioned are not cute little school girls, who were playing with balloons when they been kidnapped, those are soldiers who been playing with weapons to kill.
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #58
    Those where soldiers defending the borders of their country.

    They didn't threat ANYONE. NO aggression from their side.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #59
    How can they defend the borders of a country which has no clear borders? against no army?
     
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  20. Amired

    Amired Peon

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    #60
    army doesn't have to fight against another army to defend its borders.
    WANNA HERE ABOUT INNOCENT BEING KILLED?
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3504771,00.html

    I CAN GET YOU A LOT MORE.
    OH BTW ROCKETS WERE FIRED AT ISRAEL EVEN WHEN OUR MINISTER-OF-DEFENSE (sec-def) visited SDEROT when another little kid got hurt. you're so right.. the palestinians.. they're so poor and unhappy
     
    Amired, Jun 23, 2008 IP