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Israel Deserves Their Promised Land Because

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by webwork, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #21
    I have 'shared' much more on these forums than you ever can wish to.

    :rolleyes:
    SEMrush
    I am not 'nitpicking' it simply is not possible to 'compensate' every single person from every single descendant of every single civilization that has ever been wronged.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Supper

    Supper Peon

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    #22
    This is why political forums degenerate into crap. Because of people like you, who don't contribute anything to a discussion, but nit picking.

    Just tell me why? Just admit it, you think it is too "hard" to figure it all out?

    See, I'm guessing what you're thinking because you refuse to present anything.
     
    Supper, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #23
    specially that you have no credibility
     
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  4. webwork

    webwork Banned

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    #24
    Supper it looks like your initial post just didn't turn out to make much of any sense once GRIM and guerilla showed it in a logical light.

    How ironic.
     
    webwork, Jun 22, 2008 IP
  5. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #25
    Grim, if we go back far enough, I'm pretty sure MY DESCENDANTS own EVERYTHING! :D

    Btw, does anyone know how the Palestinians were compensated for the Israel land grab?
     
    guerilla, Jun 22, 2008 IP
  6. webwork

    webwork Banned

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    #26
    God said the world is mine!!!!!!

    Last I checked it was rubble from bulldozed houses, and maybe a warning shot or two if they were lucky.
     
    webwork, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    imad Peon

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    #27
    I do, but would like to see if others do know

    [​IMG]
     
    imad, Jun 22, 2008 IP
  8. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    they werent compensated. That is part of the problem. At one point i think there was some kind of deal to let arafat put a casino on palestinian own land, but the violence never let it materialize. I think this would be a great idea to revive it(imagine all the rich gulf arabs that have nothing to do with their time other then gamble and have fun going there?) . Look at the native americans. Most are rocking and rolling from these casino deals:D.

    Imagine the palestinians there dividing up that money between the people like the native americans do here and make sure that every palestinian family living in that area getting money every month. That would wipe out hunger and desease in that territory instantly. then for the refugees in lebanon relocate them to a location in the middle east that is good for living and build casinos there also. Voila, instant peace , problem solved.

    Comments folks?
     
    pingpong123, Jun 22, 2008 IP
  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    #29
    I m sure they can think about something better than gambling and casinos, maybe some Palestinians do not care about the money source as long as its money, but I m sure the majority would prefer something productive rather than a destructive casino.
     
    imad, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Imad i dont know anything better at this point. If you know anything better please make it known. As far as business the palestinians i know here in southern cali are awesome business men and women. If peace were to flourish there i think these bright minds will come flocking back, but then it goes right back to the problem of right of self return.

    Imad as far as casinos being destructive you have a point in a way, but i have always been a compromising pragrmatic thinker and in my lifetime and experiences i have never seen anything else that works other than pragmatism and compromise.
     
    pingpong123, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    ThraXed Peon

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    #31
    Gambling is not allowed in Islam so it would be totally counter productive to give them Casinos. How about they get the land and homes back, and the Israelis can have Casinos in Alaska or something.
     
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    webwork Banned

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    #32
    Guys I'm afraid God just told me that he's given me DP forum and I've decided to recreate this place into a Parenting Forum, so wrap it up.
     
    webwork, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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  13. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Now it puts into place another question. Will this be a new state that separates religion from government or will this be an islamic state, but as far as religion is concerned there does seem to be a good sized population of palestinian christians, or did you forget about them also?
    I take it then that you dont believe in separating religion from the state ?

    Your second response Thraxed shows why there will never be peace in that region. I said pragmatic, not a fantasy that will never happen.
     
    pingpong123, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    imad Peon

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    #34
    sometimes pingpong, I feel that you love to complicate things,

    source

    I believe it will be the state that used to be before the Israeli occupation in 1948, and in 1967, which is mentioned above.
     
    imad, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Ok then, so it wont be a religious state and people can vote for either to have the casinos or not to have the casinos. I never said muslims and christians got along together but in the context of Thraxed post i thought he referred that all palestinians would be against the casinos.
     
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    Amired Peon

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    #36
    THIS ENTIRE TOPIC IS ONE BIG BULLSHIT.

    I'm jewish (yes, jewish, not a Jew, like you don't call an african-american a 'nigger'), and everything you're saying is one big bullshit.
    first of all the state of Israel wasn't founded just because some people wanted to. throughout the entire 19 century all of the european jewish suffered from abuse and discrimination from both the government and the civilians. you're welcome to read about it.. when the french revolution occoured the jewish and jipsies (i'm not sure i'm writing this correctly) received some kind of independence but that wasn't really helpful.
    (read about Dreyfus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair). in these years in russia jewish suffered from abuse by the government (read about kishinev: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishinev_pogrom).
    that's when jewish people started to come to israel, but the pogroms didn't stop there, not even until the early ears of the 20th century.
    the pogroms were at first on religious basis (such as the story that jewish kill little christian boys and cook "mazos" with them or something) and later-on on a more modern base (such as the success of the rothschild family: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschilds) and the famous anti-rothschild painting that shows rothschild as a monster i'm sorry but i can't find it right now).
    SHOW ME A NATION/RELIGIOUS/PEOPLE THAT HAS SUFFERED SO MUCH ON A RELIGIOUS BASIS AND STILL IN THOSE TIMES DIDN'T GET HIS OWN PIECE OF LAND AND I'LL GIVE YOU A CANDY.

    and if that's not enough, in 1939 the nazis began the holocaust and destroyed no less than 6,000,000 jewish in less than six years of slaughter.

    and BTW if you think that what we're doing to the Palestinians is what the nazis did to us is completely wrong.
    first of all they keep shooting rockets and missles at cooperative Israeli settlement like "SDEROT" like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmOl4alnV0c and other settlements, without any action from us. it's true though that after these attacks we fight back, and WE DONT HURT CIVILIANS BY FIRST INTENTION, BUT THEY DO. THEY COMMIT SUICIDES IN BUSES FULL WITH WEMON AND CHILDREN AND WE ARE "ANIMALS"?

    OH AND ONE MORE THING: our HUGE COUNTRY is only 21,000 sqaure kilometers. and we have only one.
    the muslims have over 20 countries of their own including the HUGE HUGE saudi arabia.
    we do not deny them access to their holy places and they're even in control of most of them. so what do they want?


    PLEASE DONT SPEAK IF YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON.
    I gotta go i got math sat exam bb
     
    Amired, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    MCSneato Active Member

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    #37
    Does anyone know how Israelis where compensated when their land was originally taken from them?
     
    MCSneato, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    webwork Banned

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    #38
    Amired, so by your words you're saying that stealing land from other people is justified because the Jews have been habitually picked on ?

    A lot of people died during WWII. Over 20 million Russians died. Just because Jews had losses doesn't mean they can claim land as theirs and kick the people living there out.

    Maybe you can also explain why orthodox Jews don't support the Zionist state?
     
    webwork, Jun 22, 2008 IP
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #39

    Ok ill show you one. The native americans. They were driven to teh brink of exctinction and not only were they slaughtered, but they were the first race to have been killed by chemical warfare in large amounts. What would you think if they suddenly took america again by force? Would you support it?
     
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    gauharjk Well-Known Member

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    #40
    Land taken away from Israelis?:confused::confused: When? By Whom? Did the Palestinians take away their land? Please enlighten me...
     
    gauharjk, Jun 23, 2008 IP