Israel - democracy or apartheid?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by iggysick, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. #1
    Interesting video. If you have time watch it.
    It's explanation why some people consider Israel to be apartheid state.

    [video=vimeo;15243965]http://vimeo.com/15243965[/video]
     
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    Ahh , you know that apartheid isn't a form of government right ? So how can the two be compared ?
     
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    #3
    Can you have apatheid in democratic country? Can a apartheid country be called democratic one?
     
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    Yep . Any country can commit crimes against humanity .
     
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    Apatheid is legal system and you claim that you can have apartheid in one country and still call that country democratic one?
     
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    Institutionalized crime against humanity .That's the definition of apartheid . You seem to be confusing democracy whit freedom .
     
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    #9
    In minute 16 he quotes the mayor of my city, upper Nazareth, who is is a politician. Ok. Its a quote. quotes of individuals doesn't prove anything. Quoting Palestinians can "prove" that they wish to kill every jew on the planet.
    The real data is what matters. Real data reveals that 25% of my city's residents are of Arab nationality. Including 2 of my 3 immediate nearest neighbors..... and they are also represented in the city council. A "minor" fact not worth mentioning in the context, I guess? ;) This is the level of the rest of the "lecture" as well.
     
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    It seems clear that any real discrimination against Arabs in Israel is not preventing them from having Democratic representation, so Moreplayers question was illegitimate before it was asked. Personally, I find it legitimate to complain about discrimination in any society, but to call for an end to the State of Israel over complaints of discrimination against Arabs is a bit like Blacks, Latinos, Irish, English, or any other minority in the US calling for an end to the USA over very real incidences of discrimination that have happened/continue to happen. It seems people like Moreplayers think anarchy or rule by Hamas, who torture maim and kill Muslims on a daily basis is somehow preferable or more benevolent. He would take the more than a million Arabs living in Israel, evict them from their homes, and subject them to torture at the hands of Hamas. I find this mentality very Anti-Muslim. Obviously such a proposal here in the states would make you a laughing stock.

    @Moreplayers: If I have misrepresented your "solution" to your perception of discrimination in any way, feel free to clarify your position.
     
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    You guy are really annoying with putting words in people mouths. I never called for an end of State of Israel nor that would be possible or final "solution".
    Can you please show me where did I even indicate that rule of Hamas is somehow preferable?!? What's the point of disscusion if you will imputate things not being said? Can you have conversation without that?
     
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    #13
    You never said much of anything but linking articles hoping for a storm after them . Nevertheless your actions and thinking is .... predictable .
     
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    Yeah, they all the same... Can you show me where did you post a "solution" for mideast problem?

    Oh and I don't give a damn about storm so you're wrong. I just wanna show true face of Israel.
     
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    #16
    Kepp up with insults. The way I see it nothing else you can say. Thief.

    ps I will contiuze to post about Israel so you can keep collecting those threads. I only wonder what's so anit-semite in them... You will point that out right? :)
     
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    #17
    I will not point out again and again on every new thread...

    Add another to the list: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1962349

    Keep it up, you need to live up to your new title.
     
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    Actually you never pointed out what's anti-semite in those threads so try at least once.
    News posted about Israel from Israeli newspapers is anti-semitism for you? You should read definition of anti-semitism again!
    get some education and stop stealing.
     
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    So if you post thread about US you are a) hostile towards US or b) have prejudice against US, right? Ummm no you use that only when comes to Jews.
    Again, show me what anti-semite in threads I've posted. Those are news from Israel mainly published in Israeli newspapers.
    You can't just use that anti-semitism cliché and that's it. Address things posted in those thread. Point out what's hostile in them. Post what so anti-semite in them.
     
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