Israel cuts Palestinian water

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  1. new

    new Peon

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    #101

    lol @
    'civilized nation'

    where teachers in universities teach that 'Arabs are failure of humanity'
    where they block water to populations and than people come and tell "isreal is being generous in supplying water"

    and do I need to tell you once again that

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

    so labeling someone terrorist is not written in the stone.

    and where exactly hamas is listed as terrorist? EU, US, UK, AU ? all those who are boot lickers of zionists ..so their listing should not comes as a surprise
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #102
    Israel is a great nation. Like a white shining beacon in a sea of inky darkness.
     
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  3. Toopac

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    #103
    Oh yes it's clear, thanks.

    1) Palestinians are terrorists or the equivalent (even grandma down the road doing her knitting who didn’t vote Hamas nor knits bomb belts)

    2) Your want everyone to know that you are not racist because those who voted for Hama's are not a race (which implies you only have a problem with those that voted [which is not true as all are "complicit"]).

    3) Palestinians should be grateful for whatever you give them, even insufficient water because they are “terrorist” and Israeli’s need water as it’s “vital”, maybe the vital word explains why Israeli has not only not allowed insufficient water but has been attacking water supplies of the Palestinians for years including wells.
     
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  4. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #104
    Palestinians aren't a race. They are Jordanians. There never can be a solution unless Jordan is brought into the equation. Jordan is over 70% of the former Palestine and the West Bank was part of Jordan until 1967. West Bank residents help Jordanian citizenship until 1991.

    The fact is that Jordan is as much part of Palestine-Trans Jordan as Israel. Basically Palestine Trans-Jordan means Palestine both sides of the Jordan River. In fact, Jordan is the name of a river not a people or county.
     
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  5. ChaosTrivia

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    #105
    Israel is doing a favor for the Palestinians: if there is less water, they will drink more beer.
    More beer = more party. more party = more joy in life. more joy in life = less religion.
    less religion = peace.
     
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  6. CMike111

    CMike111 Peon

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    #106
    Who says they do? I suggest stop listening to the arab propoganda.


    They didn't block it, it's limited because it's a vital natural resource. Even though water is a limited vital resource in Israel it supplies water to southern Lebanaon and Jordan as well the arabs in Judea and Samaria.


    US State Department

    http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/82738.htm

    Chapter 6 -- Terrorist Organizations


    Country Reports on Terrorism

    Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism

    April 30, 2007


    Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) aliases cited are consistent with and drawn from the Specially Designated Nationals list maintained by the Department of Treasury. The full list can be found at the following website: http://www.treasury.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/sdn/sdnlist.txt

    Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
    Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
    Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
    Ansar al-Sunna (AS)
    Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
    Asbat al-Ansar
    Aum Shinrikyo (Aum)
    Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
    Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
    Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
    Gama'a al-Islamiyya (IG)
    HAMAS
    Harakat ul-Mujahedin (HUM)
    Hizballah
    Islamic Jihad Union (IJU)
    Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
    Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
    Jemaah Islamiya Organization (JI)
    Al-Jihad (AJ)
    Kahane Chai (Kach)
    Kongra-Gel (KGK/PKK)
    Lashkar e-Tayyiba (LT)
    Lashkar i Jhangvi (LJ)
    Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
    Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
    Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
    Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
    National Liberation Army (ELN)
    Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
    Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
    Al-Qaida (AQ)
    Al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI)
    Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) [Formerly Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)]
    Real IRA (RIRA)
    Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
    Revolutionary Nuclei (RN)
    Revolutionary Organization 17 November
    Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
    Shining Path (SL)
    United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)
     
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  7. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #107
    Israel is the most productive nation in the Middle East. They do more with less resources than any other such nation.

    With water, Israel creates more goods for more people. The world benefits. Israeli agricultural experts have assisted in projects in Jordan and Egypt. How do you like that. The Israeli expertise and productivity has helped the people in Islamic lands.

    What does Hamas do with anything? They buy weapons. With those weapons they try and kill Israelis. When they aren't killing enough Israelis they kill one another in Gaza.

    All they do is kill one another.

    If you built a windmill in Gaza to convert air to water, Hamas would tear it down to buy weapons. A waste for the entire world.

    If Israel takes even greater amts of that water its productive nature will create more good for the rest of the world.

    If Hamas gets more water they'll simply kill more people. Maybe more of their own. It seems to be the recent trend. Most recently Hamas is big on killing other Islamic residents of Gaza.

    I think Israel should keep larger percentages of the water. It would be more helpful to more people around the world.
     
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  8. CMike111

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    #108
    Here is a list of Hamas attacks, that includes buses, bus stations, trains, restaurants, market places, and synagogues.

    Anyone truely expect Israel to give concessions to such scum terrorists?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hamas_suicide_attacks

    Mechula bombing December 22, 2000 Mechula Junction None

    [edit] 2001
    Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
    Netanya centre bombing January 1, 2001 Netanya None
    Netanyah bombing March 4, 2001 Netanya 3
    Mifgash Shalom attack March 28, 2001 Mifgash Shalom gas station, Kfar Sava 2
    Kfar Sava bombing April 22, 2001 Kfar Sava 1 Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsability
    Kenyon HaSharon bombing May 18, 2001 HaSharon shopping mall, Netanya 5
    Hadera Mall bombing May 25, 2001 Hadera None
    Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing June 1, 2001 Tel Aviv 21 [2]
    Binyamina train station bombing July 16, 2001 Binyamina 2 Palestinian Islamic Jihad
    Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing August 9, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 15 Carried out together with Palestinian Islamic Jihad
    Nahariya train station bombing September 9, 2001 Nahariya train station 3 Suicide bomber was an Arab Israeli citizen
    Erez Passage bombing October 7, 2001 Erez Passage near Gaza None
    Ben Yehuda Street Bombing December 1, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 11
    Haifa Bus 16 attack December 2, 2001 Haifa 15
    Hilton Mamilla bombing December 5, 2001 Mamilla, Jerusalem 11 injured Carried out together with Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
    Neve Dkalim bombing December 12, 2001 Neve Dkalim None

    [edit] 2002
    Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
    Jaffa Street bombing January 27, 2002 Jerusalem 1 First Female suicide bomber in Al-Aqsa Intifada
    Taibe bombing January 31, 2002 Taibe None
    Maccabim bombing February 27, 2002 Maccabim None
    Café Moment bombing March 9, 2002 Rehavia, Jerusalem 11
    Egged bus 22 bombing March 17, 2002 Jerusalem None
    Passover massacre March 27, 2002 Park Hotel, Netanya 30 Suicide attack in Passover ceremony in Park Hotel. Carried out together with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
    Matza restaurant suicide bombing March 31, 2002 Haifa 15
    Efrat Medical Center March 31, 2002 Efrat None
    Rishon LeZion attack May 7, 2002 Rishon LeZion 16
    Netanya Market bombing May 19, 2002 Netanya 3 Carried out together with Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
    Afula road bombing May 20, 2002 Afula None
    Rothschild Street bombing May 22, 2002 Rishon Lezion 2
    Shawarmat Jamil Sokolov Street bombing June 11, 2002 Herzliyyāh 1
    Patt junction bus bombing June 18, 2002 Jerusalem 19
    Emmanuel bus attack July 16, 2002 Emmanuel-Bnei Brak bus 189 9
    Neve Shanan Street bombing July 17, 2002 Southern Tel Aviv 5
    Neviim Street bombing July 30, 2002 Jerusalem None
    'Frank Sinatra' bombing July 31, 2002 Hebrew University, Jerusalem 9 Included American and French casualties. Bomber was from East Jerusalem
    Meron Junction Bus 361 attack August 4, 2002 Meron Junction 9 Bomber with Israeli citzenships
    Tel Aviv synagogue attack September 19, 2002 bus 4, bear the Great Synagogue, Tel Aviv 6
    Geha road bombing October 10, 2002 Bar-Ilan interchange, Geha road 1
    Jerusalem bus 20 suicide bombing November 21, 2002 Kiryat Menahem, Jerusalem 11

    [edit] 2003
    Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
    Haifa bus 37 suicide bombing March 5, 2003 Carmeliya neighborhood, Haifa 17 Carried out by Hamas member and attributed to Hamas, yet never acknowledged.
    Mike's Place bombing April 30, 2003 Mike's Place pub, Tel Aviv 3 Carried out by British citizens of Pakistani descent and together with al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
    Gross square attack May 17, 2003 Gross square, Hebron 2
    Jerusalem bus 6 bombing May 18, 2003 Jerusalem 7
    Kenyon Afula bombing May 19, 2003 Afula shopping center 3
    Jerusalem bus 14A attack June 11, 2003 Downtown Jerusalem 17
    Bus station Ariel bombing August 12, 2003 Ariel 2
    Jerusalem bus 2 suicide bombing August 19, 2003 Shmuel Hanavi, Jerusalem 23
    Tzrifin attack September 9, 2003 Bus stop near Tzrifin army base 8
    Hillel Cafe bombing September 9, 2003 Hillel Cafe, Jerusalem 7
     
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  9. Sugianto

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    #109
    it is not war israel and hamas.
    it is not about terror
    it is war between God and Satan.
    If all human love God, no war, live peace.
    Look God give sunshine for good and bad people.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge between me and thee.

    6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.

    7 And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

    8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.

    9
    And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

    10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

    11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael (God hears or God shall hear); because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

    12 And he will be a wild donkey of a man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
     
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  11. ChaosTrivia

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    #111
    Obamanation I suggest you stop pasting junk from hate sites. That's an intentional mistranslation.
    http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/t/k/k0116.htm
    This is hebrew text of the chapter you quote.
    As you can see, the text contains the words: "פרא אדם", which means:
    http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=פרא+אדם
    or, "uncivilized", "illmanared". There are no donkeys in the text. a donkey in hebrew is "חמור", absent in the text.
    http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=donkey
    The quran is a violent book with a lot of abusive language, as is also reflected in its followers, the old-testament isn't, as is also reflected in its followers.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #112
    You read the same old testament I have? Seems to be more than enough bloodshed of women and children to go around, though I'll grant you the quran is more violent and advocates violence. It is odd that you pick at the translation of Donkey from Ill mannered, or uncivilized. That's complaining someone called you "stupid" when the actual text reads "Dumb" or "illiterate".:confused: Pick whichever you like and I'm OK with it.
     
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    #114
    The point is. Whilst he was trying to say he is not racist, he pointed out why he isn't ie "I'm only against those that voted hamas" - My point being "this is tripe" as he stated earlier they all suck, all are scum and all are terrorist whether they voted or not.

    Race is not the point I was making, it was hatred.
     
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    #115
    If you spend a few moments away from the islamophobes than you could have seen this thread


    what they teach in the universities of the only beacon of light, champion of democracy, savior of humanity, promoter of values of freedom ? in ME: Arabs are the failure of humanity


    Yes, it is vital, vital only for isreal, Palestinians are of-course not humans so they don't need water



    what's the point of that ? can't you read ? I have already mentioned that of-course all the zionist foot lickers label Hamas as terrorist and US has been already mentioned above ?



    wow! now that is a masterpiece!

    I feel sorry that how people utter shameful things when they are blinded by hate and bigotry

    of-course I don't want to mean that you are being a cheap racist in any way!
     
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    #116
    You know.. they kinda forced me before I was able to think for myself. Since that point however, I don't quite read "holy books".

    Yeah ok. I was more focusing on the "abusive language". The use of swear words. Cheap rude words. You can advocate murder also without the need to use abusive dirty langauge ;)

    Thank you. It is a violent book that preaches a lot of hate that is not only preached but practiced.

    No its not odd.
    Hebrew is my mother tongue so you have to give me at least some credit that when I say that "illmanared" or even "savage" is more appropriate than "donkey", this is true. This "donkey" word simply don't fit there, it is an evil lie: in the biblical times there was already a word for donkey, and its just not the same word.
    I hence don't "pick" ill-manared, but ill-manared is literally and intentionally what is written there.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge between me and thee.

    6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.

    7 And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

    8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.

    9
    And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

    10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

    11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael (God hears or God shall hear); because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

    12 And he will be a wild ill mannered man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.





    There... Happy? I don't like quoting "Holy" texts either, but its kind of funny when they seem to have come true. I wonder if its somewhat psychosomatic, like when mommy keeps telling little Billy, "Your a very bad boy", and he grows up believing it and is, therefore, a very bad boy.
     
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    #118
    I am unclear the significance of these passages in this discussion?
     
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    #119
    I still have no idea what you are talking about.

    Jews according to Judaism are supposed to be an example for all other nations. Your point is.

    Palestinians are getting water. Is there a reading comprehension issue here?

    Did you miss the long list of terrorist attacks. By attacks I mean bombs that Hamas set in restaurants, pubs, buses, bus stations, trains, market place, etc.

    An organization that does this IS a terrorist organization.


    Pot...kettle...
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #120
    i do not understand this either
    @obamanation
    are you suggesting that this is the fulfillment of jewish/christian prophecy? and has religious bases?
     
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