No the Arabs in Judea and Samaria are not being denied water. The Arab terrorists are denying safety to Arab citizens by hiding among civilians. They are cowards.
The so called BBC article is written in a clearly biased way. The crimes are those of the terrorists that target civilians and then hide under the skirts if their own people. Cowards.
Besides it really being a non-issue, since it hasn't been cut, just limited. Sure I would ask why? Why did they limit the supply? Is this to make things harder on those hiding and harboring those who plan the attacks? No matter how many ways you try to explain to these guys here on DP, that people, even Jewish/ zionist/ Israeli people deserve to not be blown up or attacked even if a religion believes that to be so. The rest of the civilized world (with few exceptions) wants peace and believes people should be able to live in peace - not pieces!
when I used it as an example, it was about a crime committed by a Muslim, in a Western community, where so many other worse crimes happen by non-Muslim, yet the focus is always about Muslims, while in your example, the last state before Israel that used to be apartheid, was South Africa, it seized to exist as an apartheid regime, same as will Israel seize to exist as an apartheid, racist and criminal regime.
You wouldn't be saying that if it was your water, I'm sure. I would like to ask why too? Why does a grandma/pensioner or a child have to have their water "limited", never mind the ordinary women men of Palestine? I can only come to one conclusion Israel is intend on making Palestinians suffer, and not only suffer but to cause so much suffering that they give up their land or maybe I am wrong and Israel is trying to create terrorists from those ordinary citizens driven to despair? It cannot be seen as anything other that "making things harder" on Palestinians. This is not affecting just terrorists or those that harbour terrorists, unless one comes to the conclusion that all Palestinians are harbouring terrorists. If the US government cut off water supply to Oregon would that not make sense, since Oregon has thousands of cases vehicle thefts, frauds, Burglary's, robberies, rapes, murders? Surely it would flush out the criminals or make things harder for those harboring them? No matter how many ways you try to explain to these guys here on DP, that people, even Muslims/ extrememists/ Palestinian people deserve to not be slowly killed or attacked even if Israel believes that to be so. The rest of the civilized world (with few exceptions) wants peace and believes people should be able to have basic amenities and human rights - not animal rights!
Well, the Palestinian people in Gaza elected Hamas, a terrorist group, to represent them. I don't think all Palestinians are to blame for the actions of Hamas, but certainly the majority who elected Hamas are responsible.
Browntwn: Do not forget; Fatah and Hamas were sharing power in Gaza. Then Hamas attacked, killed and murdered Fatah's people and drove Fatah out of Gaza. Hamas recently destroyed (that is to say cold blooded murdered every single one) of an extremist group in Gaza. Hamas rules by the gun. They wish to destroy Israel. They put the entirety of Gaza at their mercy. They have wiped out or banned any in Gaza that oppose them. It would seem to me, if people in Gaza are suffering they should look to the root cause, Hamas, whose violence against all causes the problems in Gaza.
I think the Palestinians have some pretty shitty choices between a corrupt Fatah and a terrorist Hamas - but this is their lives and their future. As much as I wish a credible leadership would emerge to guide the Palestinians I think we are left with what is there. I greatly sympathize with the suffering Palestinians and would like to see goods flow freely into Gaza and the West Bank. The Palestinian people are starting to see the cause and effect of electing/allowing/suffering under Hamas rule. There is a good chance they will be elected out of office, but as you say, that means little to people who thugged their way into power. I wonder how long the Palestinian people are willing to pay the price for allowing Hamas to rule.
The problem is that Hamas is a terrorist organization elected by the "palestinians". Therefore, the "palestinians" are compicit in the terrorist acts committed by Hamas since they elected them. Also, since they want their own state how about they get their own water? And I don't believe for a minute that Israel would stop them from doing so.
I would like to see you live with with these not so called "they dying from lack of water? no." Just talk but not ready to face the same thing rite?
Ya, I try to turn those in that are destructive to society and not vote them into power... (well that second part may not be true, so many corrupt politicians)
reading the few lunatic posts above, by debunked, earlperl, browntwn, and Cmike11, I can conclude that: 1- Collective punishment is OK if Palestinians elected somebody whom the occupation power (the so-called Israel) does not like. their excuse is Hamas is terrorist organization, well this is for you and Israel, not for the Palestinians who elected them, for them, they are freedom fighters (fighting occupation is not the main reason they elected them as will be shown below) violence came as a result of occupation, and not the contrary, occupation did not come as a result of violence, proof is that Hamas established in 1987, 39 years after the establishment of the illegal state of Israel, and 20 years after occupying Gaza, and most importantly, after long years of massacres, wars, oppression, humiliating, and after years of electing Israeli war criminals as prime ministers, like in the case of Begin, Shamir, Sharon and others, look for the war criminal profile for each online, some of them been wanted internationally for terrorism, and some of them like Shamir, do not see anything wrong in terrorism, when he said: assuming Hamas is a terrorist organization, what problem does so-called Israel have with this when their PM says nothing wrong in terrorism as means of war? he also said in 1988, feeling proud of his crimes: the statement above been made in 1988, just one year after the establishment of Hamas, and 6 years before any suicide bombing take place in Israel, the number of massacres and crimes Israel committed before Hamas, are so many. not only some Palestinians see Hamas as Government, but also neutral parties in the so-called Israel and outside it, see them so: the second thing I conclude from reading these lunatics, is: 2- Palestinians should practice Democracy, when it is not Democracy, in other words easier to understand, Palestinians should be like Americans, only show that they practice Democracy, when actually the winners are pre-decided by else than them. 3- If Palestinians voted for Hamas because Fatah is only looking for Fatah members benefits, then it must be interpreted and presented to the world as Palestinians voted for terrorism. as the Israelis themselves know very well, Palestinians voted for Hamas because Fatah did not look after them, or their needs, or what really concerns them, below is Israeli newspaper (Israelis extremists' favorite one) admiring Palestinian Democracy and saying they should learn from it: Palestinian lesson for Israel 4- (still assuming that Hamas is terrorist) it is OK for Israelis to vote for war criminals, terrorists, as their Government, but the same is not OK for Palestinians. examples are many, from Begin, to Shamir, Sharon, Perez.... and the current extremist Government (more accurate to say gangsters, or terrorists) who are responsible too for war crimes. Shamir - Wanted
not all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIdxF-GHWw <--- palestinian TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE <--- palestinian guy
LOL Did everyone vote for Hamas? If you lived there and were not a terrorist, and did not vote for Hamas - Then it's just tough shit if Israel turned off your water? or limited it? The whole notion that collective punishment is 'ok' is wrong. That's like saying all American's are responsible for Bushes or Obama's actions, therefore all American's are to be punished by whomever deems the elected official to be a terrorist or a war criminal lol.
re-read again Chaos: not for the Palestinians who elected them did not say "not for Fatah", of course some in Fatah would be interested in keeping the benefit of the corruption, that ousted them from leading Palestinian people. the vidoes are for a Palestinian girl, in shock, and the other made by Fatah, do you have anything to say about the point I mentioned in my post, like, what problem Israel have with terrorism, when Israeli PM find nothing wrong in it? and the fact that Palestinians voted for Hamas, because Fatah is corrupted? and not as Israel trying to tell the world, because Palestinian support terrorism? a good comment there btw: good point too, but not forget that even those who voted for Hamas, voted because Fatah was corrupted, and not as Israeli trying to tell the world, "they voted for terrorism" so-called Israel is only trying to find an excuse to continue their crimes against Palestinians, that started much longer before Hamas, or suicide bombings, or rockets ....
errrr.. it seems that you have forgotten some 600 dead Palestinian bodies. They were killed when the Hamas massacred the Fatah personnel in Gaza. So for you, these people are worth shit, because they were not killed by Israel. You forgot all about them and say that "they voted for Hamas", that's typical Imad. If Israel killed them, then you would have made at least 100 posts, The UN would send "fact finding missions", etc' we know the drill.
What's even funnier is, the Palestinians elect Hamas...they have no problem with Israel killing people, hey, it's their fault, they voted for Hamas. But if you flip it and when a rocket hits Sderot, and say hey, they voted for Netanyahu and he is occupying my country, so they deserve it, they would have NONE of it. Just a small part of the hypocrisy and double standards by Browntwn, Chaos Trivia and the rest. A 6 year old would be able to see through their pathetic arguments.
The exchange of accusations between Fatah and Hamas was not limited to Gaza, but also West Bank, Hamas as the elected Government been pressed on to give up their right, that Palestinian people put in their hands, to lead them, Fatah said Hamas killed so and so, Hamas said Fatah killed so and so, the numbers have not been confirmed, and the talks between both continued later, all incidents are being investigated, it is a Palestinian matter, where both sides are Palestinians, if any of the parts feel there is a blockage, or tries to hide info, there will be of course a call for a third party, be it UN or else, to investigate the incidents, you can start a thread about Hamas and Fatah relations, and the incidents that happened between both, but your try to divert the topic, will not remove the questions, is it OK for Israel to do collective punishment? did Palestinian vote for Hamas because Fatah was corrupted, or because as Israel says, they support terrorism? can you continue now from where the discussion reached, or you still have other tries to divert it?
great point, so many faults like that Israel did, when they voted for Sharon and others like him: Sharon: A terrorist then, a terrorist now Israelis voted for Likud and Sharon, and the International terrorist Shamir before him, and that was much before Hamas, so I guess using same logic, it will be OK to collective punish Israelis, by cutting water, or poisoning it, droping bombs, destroy their infrastructure ... these are the lessons you learn from Israel
In case someone forgot that Imad know nothing what "democracy" means... here is another reminder. The whole point about "democracy" and "elections" Imad, is that BOTH parties work together. As an Arab who lives in a country where there is a king you can't understand this, so lets move to the next joke. The numbers are confirmed. The deathtoll is over 600 people. 120 died (with 2 UN personnel) in just one battle, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007) one of many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fatah-Hamas_conflict none of the incidents have been investigated - none of the murderers is in jail. Do you believe your own shit? And now we get to the "topic": No, it is not OK. But shooting rockets on civilians with an intent to kill is worse. The Palestinians votes for Hamas because Fatah was corrupted, and are already sorry for it, especially the people of Gaza. But we know history, it is not the first time that the Pals make mistakes, actually: they are the stupidest nation on earth - world champion of making mistakes. Attacking the jews in 1947 was another big mistake, for example. I am always talking on the subject, you, on the other hand, will not speak on a whole lot bunch of stuff. For example: The situation of the Palestinians in Jordan. The discrimination of Palestinians in the arab world. Lack of democracy in the Arab world. Honor killings. Child Marriage. The most bloody conflict of all: shiite vs. sunnah. dozens of deads almost every day. Abuse of women. Islamic Terror I Islamic Terror II The funny threads where new shoots a bullet in his own head: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1544663 You opinion on children show on TV where children are taught that death is sweet? Anti-semitism in the Arab world in general, and in our region in particular. The worship of blood and death in the Palestinian society. and many more. Most of these topics have been discussed on this forum, always in your absence. I must admit that when you did try to speak on the inferior situation of the Arab world as seen in the scientific journals, it was very funny. You should try to speak more about other things and not only Israel.