I can't speak for him but I would imagine that he would be aghast of your endorsement of Obama. I would be if I was him.
Ohh, the numbers are not correct, but at least seems you are admitting that Israelites have stopped poor people from the basic necessities of life...!! And I know you will call it, "Nice work against terrorism" ..!! Bad image of Israel? Who says that Israel has got the Image? I don;t go for the terror tapes but the general sources are speaking openly now ..!! Need some more ?? Still you are saying that somebody is trying to make you Israelites down? In fact you are already drowned ..!!
That's my point!, I agree with you. Can't you see You quoted my sarcastic comments to Cmike111? Cmike111 who believes all Palestinians are terrorists?
Aren't they? Israel has an open door immigration policy for Jews around the planet, regardless of income level. They take them in, feed them, house them, and they are treated well. Maybe if the Palestinians converted to Judiasm, they would get the same treatment? If not, acknowledging their right to exist, the holocaust, and elimination of the signs that read "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" might be a good place to start.
LoL With logic like that, you probably walk right past 1000 pound note if it is sitting in a pile of dog crap.... uh huh. If your mother is a whore, nothing in your life can ever be of value. I could go on and on. Wise up.
maybe you can help out and explain to them a-how do they become jewish? b-how do they become israeli? maybe point to a website. a document, a how to or anything that you can suggest. this is a serious question onation. how do one becomes jewish and a citizen of israel?
Well...there are Israeli arabs who are full citizens who are represented in the Israeli parliament. I think a good start would be to stop bombing civilian buses and trains.
a-none of these people have become jewish. that is what he suggested. b- although i am not sure but ,they have become israeli citizens because israel have become bigger and the area that they live in has become israeli territory. that means if judea and samaria or gaza and westbank become part of israel then they will become israeli citizens. i asked you about this , twice before but you ignored it. this is the one state solution. there are many people that believe it is the only possible solution. i saw that one of the palestanian leaders suggested this recently. do you think that this is a good solution? are you in support of the one state solution?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/524662.stm Just need to embrace the Jew in you. Hell, I think it might be worthwhile for me to convert. Israel has more start up companies and venture fundding than almost any other place on the planet, and given the rate our currency (USD) is loosing value, it could be a positive cash flow thing. Like the many Muslims from around the world flowing into Afghanistan and Iraq for a chance to kill an American, I could be moving to Israel for a chance to make a better life for myself and my family. Funny how the focus of the argument always gets put back on Israel, and off of those chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Israel". I know if my neighbor was yelling that kind of crap at me, I'd shut off his water, his power, slash his tires, burn his house to the ground, and nail his wife in front of him (just for good measure). That's just me though.
I can't really answer your question because they don't want to be Israeli citizens. There is more to becoming a citizen than just living in it. If individuals in that area wish to pledge their allegiance to Israel, then I would consider them becoming Israeli citizens. I would not consider anyone wanting to be a citizens who has been trying to destroy the country by contributing to terrorist attacks. It depends on the individual person. A person would become jewish by going through the typical conversion process anyone who go through to become jewish. Jewish learning and such.
Would you fuck. You're a 30 stone fat greasy internet warrior, letting us know how hard you are on the internet will do nothing for you, hit the gym instead fat boy.
this thread is not about terrorism at all, but about relationship between palastanians and israelis. so maybe it is you that are posting in the wrong thread. and as usual you are talking about subject that you know nothing about. a-ethiopean were already jewish. they did not convert. b-it is not enough to say you are jewish to be considered jewish according to israeli laws. you must convert and no to the acceptance of the reform rabbis either, but to the satisfaction of the orthodox rabbis. the last time i checked, it is a a long process. you must live as an orthodox jew for seven years. it means you must keep shabbat. keep kosher and have a circumcision. fast at yum kippor. and these are the easy things. you must do all the rituals just like an orthodox jew. and there are many. it is no picnic to be jewish. i do not know if israelis and palestanians will support this position. but i see nothing wrong with it. maybe chaos and imad can give us their input about this
If you follow the link, you'll find many of the rabbis have questioned the "Jewishness" of those Ethiopian immigrants. What Ethiopian wouldn't become a Jew just to get the hell out of Ethiopia. You left out that most of the Muslim extremists in the world want to wipe you off the planet. "No picnic" sounds like an understatement. Apparently, for those Ethiopians, it beat the alternative. I believe this is the point I was making about Palestinians, but they seem to like any alternative so long as it includes hatred of Israel. Well I'm not sure what 30 stone comes out to be(I'm American), but from my picture, you can tell I'm a 300lb capitalist who likes to make money from the people I indoctrinate with pure B.S.. Fortunately for me, my neighbors are not busy trying to figure out how to kill me. There are, however, some people like that in the world(Plotting to kill me or my countrymen), and my country is busy bombing the crap out them so I don't have to be "Hard". They have my full support and thanks. Ideologically, the two are the same. It is that very reason I don't feel bad for the Palestinians. They elected Hamas to power so they could be all "Hard", and now they are treated like the criminals they elected to power. By the way, good job avoiding the real issue by a personal attack. It represents well the mentality of those you defend.
Obamanation made a very good example of why would somebody in US want to be a Jew these days, he knows nothing about the religion, but he sees the material stuff, and this is enough for him to have an identity change or more accurate to have an identity since he has none right now, this can work very good with somebody who does not have an identity like Obamanation, but for Palestinians, they already do have an identity, religion, culture that are rooted deep into history, another example like Obamanation is Ethiopian Jews, they came to Israel escaping one of the poorest countries in the world, (by the way you won't find bogart describing the Ethiopian Jews as refugees) despite they are Jews, they are being discriminated against, and Eastern Jews, are being discriminated against too, if you need proof or links for both, just ask, I will gladly provide them those are Jews, who are suffering racism and discrimination in Israel, so imagine how it would be for Palestinians? people often make the mistake of thinking that Israel is a democracy, this may be true only for the White Western Jews, but in real, Israel is neither Jewish, nor a democracy, but a Zionist state, Israel can't be Jewish except if Palestinians gave their permission, this is why Israeli PM Netanyahu demands Palestinians recognize 'Jewish state', so assuming that Palestinians who are under occupation, are a part of this one state solution, ever heard about a country that demands its non-Jewish citizen, to recognize their country as Jewish? ever heard about any country in the world that demand any others to recognize it "as"? and where is Israel? so far it has no official borders?! the demand was pre-1991 to recognize Israel, (lands occupied in 1948) and it happened and according to this negotiations started, now the demand is to recognize a "Jewish State" despite there are many Jews who do not recognize Israel as a Jewish state, or even as a country. I m not against a one state solution, if there is an international guarantee that all citizens will be treated the same, and when there are laws against discrimination, and when there are equal opportunities for all in the democratic process, with the current demography, it means non-Jewish will be a majority in Israel (which includes then Westbank and Gaza) Netanyahu, is trying to jump over, by demanding Palestinians to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, so how it will be then? a Jewish state with a majority of Muslims and Christians, and other non-Jewish citizens? it means there is something wrong, and it is not really democracy, so Israel have to choose then between becoming a "Jewish", or becoming a democracy, two state solutions is more implementable, but of course Israel will hate so much to give back what they stole by provoking violence and wars, the only way out, as I see, which also President Abbas realized recently, is to resist, I do not say suicide bombings, or rockets, but to target every Israeli occupation soldier in Westbank and Gaza, and any male and armed settler since those are not really civilians, and are occupying else land, it will be painful, and hard, but this what proved itself as working solution with Israel, as happened in Southern Lebanon, when Lebanese resistance forced Israel out after 18 years of occupying it.
@onation a-all the ethiopean jews were checked to make sure they are qualified to be jewish by blood. it means that their mother was jewish. b-as i said it is not all perks to be jewish like you were making it sound like. i wasn't talking about jewish persecution either and you should also know that it is not limited to muslems
Oh Lord. So now the issue is racial discrimination inside of Israel. Hell, I get discriminated against in East L.A., Oakland, Westminster, and many other places in the U.S.. Does that make the U.S. a racist nation? People group homogeneously by nature, and yes, that leads to racial discrimination. Shall we put the shoe on the other foot and ask how Jews are treated in Muslim states? No, I didn't think you wanted to go there. Aside from the stated position that the U.S. is seeking a TWO state solution, you are again complaining about how the Israelis run affairs internal to their country. I have, in fact heard of an Islamic state asking all its citizens to recognize their country as Islamic, whether or not they are Muslim. So what is your beef? (I'm not a proponent of any religious state for the record). Here is another idea you might not of thought of. Quit sponsoring, training, and supporting terrorists. Quit targeting anyone. Quit electing terrorists to positions of Governance. Quit shouting death to israel and death to america. Quit burning flags. Acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Do all that convincingly and you will get a sympathetic ear when you complain about racism, bullying, and the rest of the charges you make against Israel. You would also get increasing support from the U.S., politically and economically, to make a two state solution with the 1967 borders a reality. So funny. Its what you don't get about Americans. We adapt. Evolution is a part of life. Government spends more money, we go get government jobs/contracts. Stock market crashes, we buy real estate. The ability to adapt is part of our identity, albeit I was joking/exaggerating when I talked about becoming Jewish as a business opportunity.