Israel blows up bus full of Jews in Bulgaria

And yet you just did. Again. Man you are easy.

 

Sorry if it's confusing to you.

 

"This message is hidden because Obamanation is on your ignore list."

Ah...that makes the thread smell sweeter.

 

Got to have some banter. Threads get so bloody boring otherwise!

 

Hello chum,

Love your remark, it amused me a lot and I understand completely. Nothing like a good free-for-all eh ? Of course I can swear like a trooper - I was a grunt once - but I just cannot tolerate unjust posts which pillory a perfectly valid subject based on fanatical, illogical and primitive ideals and thinking. Hence I give `em hell in the best literary manner I can.

I find that a good command of English defeats them quickly and they resort to abuse. Then I know I`ve got `em in a corner.

 

Funny, that is EXACTLY how I think about it as well.

 

Agree entirely old boy but there are one or two here that need to get it both barrels...they don't get it any other way.

 

Thought you might be but hey...that's your business bro. I don't have a problem with it!

 

Why do so many countries under Sharia law persecute Christians?

 

Can you give an example ? persecuted in what way ?

 

Yeah. Right.

 

Persecution of Christians in the Muslim World

While the Egyptian government does not have a policy to persecute Christians, it discriminates against them and hampers their freedom of worship. Its agencies sporadically persecute Muslim converts to Christianity. The government enforces Hamayouni Decree restrictions on building or repairing churches. These same restrictions, however, do not apply to mosques.

In January 1999 tens of thousands died when Muslim gunmen terrorized Christians who had voted for independence in East Timor

Indonesia: In December 2011, a second church in Bogor, West Java was ordered to halt its activities by the local mayor. Another Catholic church had been built there in 2005. Previously a Christian church, GKI Taman Yasmin, had been sealed. Local authorities refused to lift a ban on the activities of the church, despite an order from the Supreme Court of Indonesia. Local authorities have persecuted the Christian church for three years. While the state has ordered religious toleration, it has not enforced these orders.

Iran: On 30 April 2012, all the 20 churches (17 Protestant churches, 2 Catholic churches and one place of worship belonging to followers of a local nondenominational faith) have been closed down by ordered from the Acting Regent which also ordered members of the congregations to tear down the churches by themselves. Most of the churches slated for demolition were built in 1930s and 1940s, and now the regency only has 2 churches open, both built after 2000

Iraq: In 2007, Chaldean Catholic priest Fr. Ragheed Aziz Ganni and subdeacons Basman Yousef Daud, Wahid Hanna Isho, and Gassan Isam Bidawed were killed in the ancient city of Mosul. Fr. Ragheed Aziz Ganni was driving with his three deacons when they were stopped and demanded to convert to Islam, when they refused they were shot. Six months later, the body of Paulos Faraj Rahho, archbishop of Mosul, was found buried near Mosul. He was kidnapped on 29 February 2008 when his bodyguards and driver were killed

Lebanon: in 1976 ... Palestinian militias attacked Christian civilians. According to an eyewitness: The attack took place from the mountain behind "It was an apocalypse," said Father Mansour Labaky, a Christian Maronite priest who survived the massacre at Damour: 'They were coming, thousands and thousands, shouting "Allahu Akbar! (God is great!) Let us attack them for the Arabs, let us offer a holocaust to Mohammad!", And they were slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children

Pakistan:
In October 2001, gunmen on motorcycles opened fire on a Protestant congregation in the Punjab, killing 18 people. The identify of the gunmen are unknown. Officials think it might be a banned Islamic group.

In March 2002, five people were killed in an attack on a church in Islamabad, including an American schoolgirl and her mother.

In August 2002, masked gunmen stormed a Christian missionary school for foreigners in Islamabad, six people were killed and three injured. None of those killed were children of foreign missionaries.

In August 2002, grenades were thrown at a church in the grounds of a Christian hospital in north-west Pakistan, near Islamabad, killing three nurses.

In December 2002, three young girls were killed when hand grenade was thrown into a church near Lahore on Christmas Day.

In November 2005 3,000 militant Islamists attacked Christians in Sangla Hill in Pakistan and destroyed Roman Catholic, Salvation Army and United Presbyterian churches. The attack was over allegations of violation of blasphemy laws by a Pakistani Christian named Yousaf Masih. The attacks were widely condemned by some political parties in Pakistan.

On 5 June 2006 a Pakistani Christian stonemason, Nasir Ashraf, was working near Lahore when he drank water from a public facility using a glass chained to the facility. He was assaulted by Muslims for "Polluting the glass". A mob developed, who beat Ashraf, calling him a "Christian dog". Bystanders encouraged the beating and joined in. Ashraf was eventually hospitalized.

One year later, in August 2007, a Christian missionary couple, Rev. Arif and Kathleen Khan, were gunned down by militant Islamists in Islamabad. Pakistani police believed that the murders was committed by a member of Khan's parish over alleged sexual harassment by Khan. This assertion is widely doubted by Khan's family as well as by Pakistani Christians.

In August 2009, six Christians, including 4 women and a child, were burnt alive by Muslim militants and a church set ablaze in Gojra, Pakistan when violence broke out after alleged desecration of a Qur'an in a wedding ceremony by Christians.

On 8 November 2010, a Christian woman from Punjab Province, Asia Noreen Bibi, was sentenced to death by hanging for violating Pakistan's blasphemy law. The accusation stemmed from a 2009 incident in which Bibi became involved in a religious argument after offering water to thirsty Muslim farm workers. The workers later claimed that she had blasphemed the Prophet Muhammed. As of 8 April 2011, Bibi is in solitary confinement. Her family has fled. No one in Pakistan convicted of blasphemy has ever been executed. A cleric has offered $5,800 to anyone who kills her.

On 2 March 2011, the only Christian minister in the Pakistan government was shot dead. He was targeted for opposing the anti-free speech "blasphemy" law, which punishes insulting Islam or its Prophet. A fundamentalist Muslim group claimed responsibility

Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state that practices Wahhabism and restricts all other religions, including the possession of religious items such as the Bible, crucifixes, and Stars of David. Christians are arrested and lashed in public for practicing their faith openly. Strict sharia is enforced. Muslims are forbidden to convert to another religion.

In Somalia 25 November 2010 Nurta Mohamed Farah, age 17. was shot and killed after fleeing her parents home where she had endured much torture and drugging, by them, in hopes that she would renounce her faith in Jesus Christ

In Sudan, it is estimated that over 1.5 million Christians have been killed by the Janjaweed, the Arab Muslim militia

The issue of Christian genocides by Muslim Turks may become a problem, since Turkey wishes to join the European Union.

Yemen: Three Christian missionaries were killed in their hospital in Jibla, Yemen in December 2002. A Muslim gunman, apprehended by the authorities, said that he did it "for his religion.

Nigeria: In the 11 Northern states of Nigeria that have introduced the Islamic system of law, the Sharia, sectarian clashes between Muslims and Christians have resulted in many deaths, and some churches have been burned. More than 30,000 Christians were displaced from their homes Kano, the largest city in northern Nigeria. Boko Haram conducts terrorist attacks against Christians.

Philippines: In the Philippines, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front and Abu Sayyaf attacks and kills Christians.

Persecution of Christians in the Muslim World

Would you like to see more?

 

Anybody looking for war, always gets it and it's their own who suffer

 

Corwin, you realize this little dweeb just said that to see people post stuff like that, right? He get's off on that stuff, in the same manner abusing women makes that type get a big stiffie. Basically it goes counter to their "religion of peace" line, but that's just PR silliness. To a guy whose real life likely involves repeating "would you like a Slurpee with that?"... letting others think he's a bad-ass potential murderer is apparently cool.

You can't really want peace AND want to kill apostates, gays, jews, and force women to be subsurvient and dress like beekeepers. Basically they're frustrated by the current century and just too backward to catch up.

 

It's obvious Christians are discriminated against in many Islamic countries, such as in Saudi Arabia you can be arrested for simply possessing the bible.

On the other hand, you guys do realise that Orthodox Jews in Israel really hate Christians too? I saw a shocking youtube clip of some yankee christies who set up a table in an Israeli street selling t shirts being harassed and screamed at by ridiculous looking men in black hats and curly side burns. In Jewish law it's only a crime to target other Jews, not "gentiles", as was shown in the clip when Israeli police turned up didn't intervene. The funniest part of all this is that evangelical Christians are some of the most avid supporters of Israel

Here we go, found it:

[video=youtube;q3O3EB6pjHw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3O3EB6pjHw[/video]
[video=youtube;RHq-R0IDoaw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHq-R0IDoaw[/video]

(Skip to about 2 minutes in on the last one)

Let's face it, loons are in all religions.

 

Did you think you can build a church without making an application first ? you are dreaming son.

Christians freely worship in Indonesia and they also freely preach Christianity.

whoever closed these churches, you will have to ask them why ..

government played no role in this.

these are thugs . you don't have extreme people/organisations in your country ? the KKK ? no Islamophobes ? no neo Nazi's ?

Only Islam can exist in the KSA. Christians can still worship in their own homes if they want, so long as they are out of sight. if they don't like it they can go to other parts of the Muslim world or the West. I think it's fair. I don't see any persecution.

 

C'mon man, how is it fair? Muslims can do what ever the want here and in the US and they build friggin' mosques everywhere, but Christies can't even be Christies in public?

 

It's not like Christians cannot build churches in the Middle East or be "Christies" as you say...they just can't do this in the KSA.

The KSA has been free from churches for centuries. There's a policy of "no churches" there.

 

There are probably more countries that disallow it as well. I don't know of any Western countries that don't have any mosques. Seems like double standards to me.