Isnt it funny how so many SEO companies promise & say they can get you in the top 10

but they themselves come in on the 3rd, 4th or 5th page of every major SEO keyword?

Thats like saying, a stock broker who says he has great returns on his clients portfolios but his own portfolio is losing money.

A SEO company should not advertise their services of getting you in the top 10 if they can't even get themselves in the top 10!

 

Yes, you are almost right. But it's not so bad if SEO company in top20, 30, 40, 50 for MAJOR seo keywords. If they are in top 1000 that is real signs of rip-off! Cause that guys you mention at least trying to get to the top. Maybe they can get you in top in not so competitive industries without a problem, assuming their own results.

 

Personally I don't think the ranking of a website is any indication of the skills of an seo. Under your rules there are only 10 good seo companies in the world.

 

If you somehow mention site in your signature, so watches site, then I can tell you if it REALLY competitive niche, REALLY REALLY. You already know this I bet. In the moment it can be compared to even casino, adult, dating, webhosting.

If you ever plan to mantain extensive link campaign ( I see link page on your site ) then I can help you with link building part. I have manually collected big database of sites during year I worked with other jewelry and watches sites which going to exchange.

 

They will get you to top10 - but on search phrases like "justanotherwordihavejustinvented". They themselves rank for those words, too. That no one searches those words is different problem.

Sidenote: The most money earning SEO companies don't have to be top10 for SEo keywords.
Reasons obvious - the richest clients don't search for SEO companies on the web.

 

I agree. I actually go on scriptlance.com sometimes and warn the poor people on there looking for SEO that anyone claiming to get them top 10 for any keyword are fakes. I also remind them "will submit your site to 500 seach engines" is all BS. They only need to worry about 5 SE's at the most. Mainly 3 of them...

 

lots of factors to consider i think, not only on rankings, but on how they handle site's and sales.=)

 

I've worked with many SEO companies. They don't care about there own rankings, per se. They care about there client's rankings. Would you care if they were #1 for SEO, but couldn't rank any of their client's sites? ...OR... having tons of rankings for client's sites and their own site on page 50 for SEO?

I have an SEO company, mostly comprised of real estate clients and I don't spend anytime optimizing my business site for the SE's. I put all my resources into my client's site. Results are what they wanna see, which is true with potential clients too.

 

Most of the top 10 for the term SEO are not actually offering seo services. So its pretty irrelevant IMO.

 

also SEO style terms are probably the most competitive in the world as, I'll take a guess and say 4/10 of all SEO companies know what there doing so that's a massive category as well, and of course you'll have other companies thinking smart and going for lesser terms and also exactly what Voasi said too

 

well whatever the case is, dont advertise that you can get people in the top 10 without being able to get yourself in the top 10. PERIOD.

 

What about those SEO companies that are just starting?

How can they take a new website and instantly blast them to the top in one second. Optimization takes a lot of time if you wan to get to the top of relative searches.

If a search engine optimization company had a clients with sites that are at the top, then they could use those as examples.

 

Wow...that was informative. Did you even read everyone else's post?

 

You answered your own question. They JUST started.

Think about it, would you hire someone who claims they can get your great rankings but are ranked poorly themselves? I sure as hell wouldnt, just doesnt make sense too. If they can't get themselves to the top, what makes you think they can get me to the top?

 

Hehe it's the same as those guys saying they can teach you how to
make millions when they haven't done it themselves.

 

Well this is not the case always !! I co-owned a company and website which ranked pretty well with more than a couple SEO KWs - but the company split and i establised a new company and a new website. Practically - ranking for SEO related high competitive KWs doesnt come overnite so it will take time. Till that happens i have taken my website to the top page for a couple of other KWs ( relatively lesser competitive ). But i can still assure good rankings for my clients.

And as said earlier - My own website only recieves the surplus time i get in a day which isnt enough to get it to the top. What matters more is that i get my clients' site to the top - simple bcoz he is paying dearly for that and his business depends on it - and so my business depends on its rank too !!

So i would say - the client sites' ranking is more important as that will keep both of us in business !

Seo Ocean

 

1. Do you have ANY idea how much crap an SEO company has to deal with if they are on page 1 of Google? Most 'real' SEO companies do not get business from Search anyhow, they get all their business from referrals and word of mouth.

2. not really because a stockbroker MUST make money on his portfolio it is essential. It is NOT essential for an SEO company to rank. PLEASE explain to me how you say there are only 10 SEO companies in the world worth dealing with? Because I am really interested here.

3. An SEO company should NOT advertise getting clients into the top 10 anyhow. If they do, then they are probably more interested in rankings than conversions. seO, the keyword here is OPTIMISATION, to be the best, at its optimum. not to be FIRST. There is a world of difference between a site that has been properly optimised, and a site that ranks #1.

Kevinn, please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think you fully understand Business effort to reward. WHY should SEO companies fight it out for rankings just to impress clients? Most good SEO's are turning work away , so where is the logic in spending masses of time ensuring THEY rank against their peers?

 

Well Said Welsh !

But i agree too with you on the view - that - an SEO company should never claim they can get a top 10 result - showing the top 10 already achieved is a much better way of doing it.

The problem is that there are lot of people who think they know SEO and get started and fail miserably after putting up such tall claims.

Hope we have a better SEO providing community !!

 

but there is only place for maybe 200 seo-companies worldwide (i assume that google in different countries shows different results). if i would be a seo company, i would advertise like "the guy on place 1 for [carbrand cityname] is my client" or something like this...

 

I have clients at #1 in organic SERP's where the PPC cost is £10-30 per click. What does where MY site rank matter? I have clients first page for mortgages, credit management, sex toys, But is DOES NOT MATTER where MY site ranks. MY site does not pay me money. When I DID rank first page for phrases like internet marketing company, I ended up spending 2 hours or so a day writing 'sorry but I am not taking on new clients' emails.

My site is still page 1 for some internet marketing phrases, but it does me no good, because I am busy enough!