Radical christians are the real christians? KKK? Spanish Inquisition? The crusades? Medevil tourture? Real christians? Real christians belive in tolerance and peace. Martin luther king, Mother Theresa, etc. = real christians George Bush, KKK, Northern Republican Army = not real christians http://www.mpfweb.org/200110_asa.html = real muslims Alquida, Bin Laden = not real muslims
So the bible cant be translated? Ok, so how about these quotes? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=157108 CHRISTIAN BIBLE QUOTES: Genesis 30:3-10 Then she [Rachel] said, "Here is Bilhah, my maidservant. Sleep with her so that she can bear children for me and that through her I too can build a family." So she gave him her servant Bilhah as a wife. Jacob slept with her, and she became pregnant and bore him a son. Then Rachel said, "God has vindicated me; he has listened to my plea and given me a son." Because of this she named him Dan. Rachel's servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son. Then Rachel said, "I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won." So she named him Naphtali. When Leah saw that she had stopped having children, she took her maidservant Zilpah and gave her to Jacob as a wife. Leah's servant Zilpah bore Jacob a son. Endorses adultry and polygamy if not translated Deuteronomy 22:20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you. Endorses killing of women that cant prove their virginity if not translated Check out my other thread for comments.
I'm not saying that any of the religions is pretty. What I am saying is that if you are going to claim to follow a religion, you should follow that religion. If you call yourself a Christian and then make up your own ideas about what Christianity is, you aren't really a Christian. The same is true for Islam. Note: The verses you selected were from the Old Testament and, in the Bible it explains that those rules are no longer in effect. This is why American liberals fail to understand Islamists, but American conservatives intuitively understand Islamists. American liberals think "well, why can't they just keep being Muslims and just ignore all of that stuff that the Koran says?" American conservatives understand exactly why the Islamists will never do that.
Ok... here's some new testament ones: JESUS ON SEXUAL IMMORALITY, ADULTERY, AND CHILD ABUSE (part 29) - Revelation 2:20-23 "You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead." In this one, Jesus condones killing the innocent children of sinners. Again, not practiced by most christians but condoned by the christian bible. Endoreses the killing of sinners' innocent children if not translated. Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord." Endorses slavery if not translated. Don't be hypocritical All religions can look bad if not for translations. Some verses are based on culture. Same goes for the koran. Most muslims aren't extremists just like most christians arent extremists.
I am a muslim, I follow "only" Quran and I submit myself to god alone, I am against terrorism,hadith and violence, what made you think I am not following Islam?
Let me review for you the definition of hypocrisy.1 : a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion By the dictionary definition of hypocrisy, you are arguing for hyprocrisy and I am arguing against hypocrisy. You are arguing that people should claim to believe in Christianity, and then not follow Christianty in practice. That is hypocrisy. The same is true, of course, if you switch Islam for Christianity. I am not arguing that Christianity or Islam are nice, pretty, modern, civilized, workable, desirable, functional, or anything else. What I am arguing is that if you are going to make up your own religion, you should give it a new name. Don't make up your own "religion of peace and tolerance" and then call it by the name of another religion.
First one is taken out of context, it was because she thought she could not bear a son, and often a servant was to birth a son instead. That was done with abraham, and God doesn't advicate that, it usually results in unwanted... results. Second one is also taken out of context, that is a law specifically to Israel, if you read before that. Your terrible at taking things out of context, try again next time.
i'm muslim..whoever that start this thread have come more far for what he/she did.i,m want to ask you something..a very-very clear question..First,if you believe that your bible is the source from the god,logically,why does bible had so many edition,like new testament,old testament,matthews and moreover...and got so many error typo in it..and for your information,jesus is pronounce esus,or isa in hebrews.not jesus.and the original sources is from hebrew languange.so,why then in all bible that state jesusthan esus or isa?you might find your answer clearly if you watch this video at youtube.type ahmad deedat and you will find it..