Is your traffic real? Prove it. Sell some to me and I'll post reviews.

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  1. UKmember

    UKmember Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Cheers for the review GeorgR, I can't wait to see others results later on today especially easysitehits.com as i have purchased from them once before, I am happy with my service i provide to the public and as some of you may be aware i have given refunds. Any how even if i come 3rd 4th or 5th i still happy :).

    Great Thead Jl

    (points to remember dont keep messaging on this thread Jl, It will class as a bump and wouldn't want you to get banned)
     
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  2. UKmember

    UKmember Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I have now set the referrer back to my business URL ultimateonlinetraffic.com You will see this in the stats shown in this thread

    http://goodautorates.com/stats.php

    About time this was given a sticky. Jl, How about doing another thread on this but without the sell some to me bit, If this becomes a sticky you may get alot of offers and which you may not be able to afford, just a thought anyway. I'll wind my neck in now :D
     
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  3. Fedorpheux

    Fedorpheux Active Member

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    #23
    Will you be able to report on different conversion rates between the traffic sources (so we can judge what quality the traffic is)?
    This should turn out to be a very helpful thread...
     
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  4. jonathanleger

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    #24
    UK:

    why did you turn off referrer reporting? It's a sign of a shady traffic provider if they don't want their customers knowing where the traffic is coming from. Does Google disable its referrers? Or Yahoo, or MSN or any major advertising provider? No, because it's important that the customer be able to see where his traffic comes from. Please turn the referrers back on, or it will make for a bad point in my review.

    Fedorpheux:
    Yes, I will report conversion rates along with my reviews at the end of each campaign.

    Jon
     
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  5. UKmember

    UKmember Well-Known Member

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    #25









    My traffic comes from pop unders and expired domains, Which it shows in the stats on your page. There is no difference with my traffic source.

    Whether you give me a good review or a bad review my traffic will still be great value for money.

    If you wish for me to turn the referrer off, Please purchase more traffic from me. Account has now finished


    Regards
    UKmemeber

    May i just add...

    Mine is the only one that shows other referrers!
     
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  6. jonathanleger

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    #26
    Review of UKmember's Traffic Service

    I purchased 5,000 uniques from UKmember (only 2,331 are shown on the stats page because I started this tracking idea half way into it). The 5,000 were delivered. Here's the break down:

    Unique IP Addresses: 98%
    Unique Host Names: 98%
    Average Time On Site: 60.8 seconds (excluding incomplete loads)
    Incomplete Page Loads: 59%
    Visitors Who Actually Saw the Page: 58%
    Conversions: 0

    Summary

    According to my stats, the traffic from UKmember was real people viewing the page. No bots or scripts here.

    However, of the 2,300 uniques tracked, only about 900 people actually kept the ad open long enough for the page to load completely. Of that 900, only 8 people actually clicked the one link on the page (0.3%). This resulted in zero conversions from a site that converts even YouTube traffic at 8%.

    The referring sites I examined used a pop-over ad to show my site. What happens is this: the referring page loads, and then immediately your page is shown in an iframe (I assume) with a "Close" button in the upper-right corner. Since obviously nobody went to that page to view what I was offering, the majority of people immediately closed the ad without even looking at it.

    I think UKmember's traffic would be much more valuable if he used pop-unders instead of his current method. That way the person would see the site after they're already done looking at whatever they went to the page for. As it is, the ad is an annoyance that is of no interest to the vast majority of the traffic.

    If you do use UKmember's traffic, your site will have to catch people's attention fast, on a subject that is very popular, otherwise you will most likely have the same kind of results I had.
     
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    #27
    This a very good thing your doing.
     
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  8. UKmember

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    #28
    Thank you for the review, I must say that my traffic comes from pop unders which people can see when the click on one of my referrers on my STATS page, I have always used pop unders and expired domains so if you say this is not from pop unders unfortunatley i will have to say your wrong because it is. It is a shame the full 5000 was not seen on this service. As you said you need a good landing page which is very true, hence the reason why i have targeted traffic.

    Thank you for your review

    Regards
    UKmember
     
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  9. jonathanleger

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    #29
    I saw no pop-under on that site or any of the sites I examined in my referrers list. Take a look at this site from one of your referrers in my stats:

    http://www.rapidleecher.com/?r=1n5w

    That is not a pop-under, that's a pop-over. Big difference. A pop-under isn't noticed until after the visitor leaves the page (or closes the browser). A pop-over is seen before the page content, which only motivates visitors to close the ad. After all, they're not there to see the ad, they're there to see the page content. After looking at the page content and getting the information they want, that's when you want to show them the ad. They are much more inclined at that time to visit something else.

    My landing page converts You-Tube traffic (which is extremely untargeted traffic) at 8%. The person doesn't have to buy anything for it to convert -- just fill out a form. So if your traffic was unable to convert even a single individual, what does that say about your traffic?

    I again repeat: if you used real pop-unders your traffic would be much more valuable. I'd be inclined to purchase more from you if my site was displayed in a better manner.
     
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  10. shahab6

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    #30
    It means its either very crappy traffic, or its fake,.
     
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  11. UKmember

    UKmember Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Thanks for your comment shahab6, If you have not purchased my traffic please can you not make any comments, My traffic works very well, This is why i have so many customers,

    I will look forward to seeing the rest of the reviews


    Regards
    UKmember
     
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  12. webgeeks

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    #32

    Please send me the site info, and I'll give 1k visitors free from TrafficNerd.com in return for your review. I'll pm u stats login info.

    Good post..
     
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  13. bon123

    bon123 Banned

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    #33
    hey you also selected the lowest quality traffic of mine. Most other people only have one type so make sure you don't compare my least quality to others best quality.

    Thanks
     
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  14. richman2006

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    #34
    hmm u reallu nice doing that for us thaks
     
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    #35
    bon123:

    WHy'd you sell me the low quality stuff when you knew I was doing reviews on the traffic? It's in your best interest to sell me the best stuff. PM me and I'll buy the best stuff from you (just not a lot of it).
     
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    #36
    Jonathanleger:

    Excellent Thread. I have been struggling to find the best traffic. I really have not found click traffic that really converts. I wonder if anyone has found a site that really converts. What I see is the page opening and immediately closing or someone forgetting to close it. Nearly 100% of the time they never go to any page other than the landing page. I am interested in the end results or an analysis of the traffic and other comments on the best way to get converting traffic.
    In the end I would also like to see a summary sheet showing the Best to Worst click traffic.
     
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  17. jonathanleger

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    #37
    Review of ashishsab's Traffic Service

    Uniq IP Addresses: 4%
    Uniq Host Names: 4%
    Average Time On Site: 0 seconds (excluding incomplete loads)
    Incomplete Page Loads: 100%
    Visitors Who Actually Saw the Page: 0%
    Conversions: 0

    Summary

    There's not much to say about ashishsab's traffic. It's fake. He uses a bot, it looks like just a script, that uses a series of around 40 IP addresses to grab the pages of your site to make it look like a "visit".

    THESE ARE NOT REAL VISITORS. Zero of the "visitors" executed the JavaScript code on the page or set the cookie on the page. Only 4% of the 889 "visitors" so far were from unique IP addresses.

    This traffic is bogus. He also claimed he would send 10,000 visitors in 24 hours, and after 24 hours I've received less than 1,000.

    Buyer beware.

    P.S. In the thread where he's selling this traffic, the claim is made that the traffic will help Alexa ratings and improve search engine rankings. That's bogus. Alexa ratings come from real users with the Alexa toolbar installed. A bot like this one is not able to install the toolbar, and therefore unable to help your Alexa ratings. Alexa ratings do not help in search engine optimization anyway, so that is also a false claim. Even if Alexa rankings did help, and even if the bot could load the toolbar, the traffic is coming form less than 40 IP addreses, so Alexa would count it as no more than 40 "votes" from 40 "people" -- and 40 votes doesn't mean beans compared to the millions of people with the toolbar.
     
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    #38
    wb2rem:

    I will post a summary review at the end of this thread after all reviews are complete.
     
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    #39
    I've already given up on these so called traffic a while back, I've bought all around from this board like Jonathanleger. They usually end up just from the same 3-5 traffic resellers.

    The only use for them is to look good on the hit counters, and perhaps alexa ranking (not sure about this).

    If you want real, converting traffic, just got go back to the fundamentals, search engine.
     
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    #40
    I tend to agree with you gonka. My purpose in doing this test is to prove statistically whether or not any of the traffic is quality traffic.

    Now, at least two of the providers so far have resulted in a conversion (more on that when I post the review). Whether or not they will result in multiple conversions remains to be seen. If they can result in at least a few conversions per traffic purchase, then it's worth paying for.

    However, none so far have even come close to approaching the conversion rates of search engine traffic, or even low-quality traffic like You-Tube. But then, it's a lot easier to get this kind of traffic than search engine or even YouTube traffic, so like I said, if I can get a few conversions, I'm more than happy to buy it!
     
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