I have a large site that has around 1500 visitors a day. Most come from my hometown, a lot of offline advertising. The average visitor spends over an hour on the site with an average page view of 50. I have seen that a lot of the people that visit my site (90%) will click an ad and a few of those people (10%) will click on multiple ads. My site is a refrance site, used for fact finding and research. There are 20 elementry schools, 5 high schools, and 3 colleges in my hometown of 160,000 residents. My site has over 20k articles and essays. All of them where written by friends, visitors, or myself. We also have a place for visitors to request topics. I add about 100-200 articles a week. I know that's not a lot, but it's all I have time for. My question is: Would I earn more money by switching my ads to adsense. Right now I charge advertisers per month per banner position. Each banner is placed in it's relevant place. This has been very time consuming and profit limiting. Since I don't get paid by click but per position. I have around 200 ads at $10-100 per month. Most are at $10 a month. I heard that Google does not like it when a visitor clicks on multiple ads on diffrent sections of the site. Is this true? A portion of my visitors do click on multiple topic ads, through out the site. There have been days where my visits was around 1200, but there where 1300 clicks. Will Google be unhappy with this? I do not have anything that says click here or visit sponsors. Is there anything that I should look out for? Thanks.
Oh come on. How can you, your friends, and family members possibly write 100-200 articles A WEEK! And you say that's "not a lot"? Dude, that's impossible! Unless your articles are two sentences long, that is! They're not two sentences long, are they? As to your question: Be very, very careful if a lot of your traffic comes from schools, because schools share the same IP, and Google can't tell the difference between one user from another access through the same IP. A lot of people have been banned because the same IP clicked on too many ads.
No they are around 500-1500 words each. Most are from assignments, essays and topics that we are into. Plus, I have close to 50 poeple supplying the articles. That breaks down to 4 articles a week per person. That is not a lot. I have heard of other such sites that have around the same number of people writting that produce 10 to 20 arcticles a week per person. I don't know how many friends and family you have, but I have a much larger pool that I can get to write for me. Maybe around 200-400 people. How about helping with the topic, instead of calling me a liar?
Although in general you would be fine there is one thing I would actually worry about and that is: There are probably a lot of shared ips there and you may run into trouble if the same IP you sign into your account, clicks on your ads a few hundred times. Especially if 600 of those people are family like you say you are, statistically one of them is going to try to "help" you. You also have more control over the banners then the Google Ads. Something just doesn't sit right with the fact that you have 600 family members visiting the site and clicking ads every day and I suspect Google will end up feeling the same way.
My family and friends are not the ones clicking ads, they just help write the content. I have print ads in local computer labs, libraries, campus hang-outs and places like that. Including direct link from a couple of the loca schools that let their students use my site for reference. I had not thought about the fact that computer labs at schools and libraries would be shared IP's. I know a lot of my visitors come from those areas. I am the only one that uses my computer, and I don't click on ads. I just go to their site.
Thank you jackburton2006 for the second part of your post. How can I go about controlling this, besides taking down my print ads from those locations. Can I contact google direct abou this? Would it help?
I don't think telling google about the shared IP bit (from schools) will help. They MIGHT tell you it's okay, and then a month later ban you when too many clicks came from the same IP. I've read it happening to a LOT of people. It's really unavoidable if your site is popular among a small, selected group of people that just happens to share the same connection. You can take down your ads, but there are still those who are already addicted to your site. You can't just tell them to stop coming, right? I think this is a very, very big potential problem for you. Worst cast scenario: Google tells you it's okay, you run the ads for a month, make a few hundred, and when it comes time to pay you, Google sends you an email telling you they have "fraudulent clicks" and doesn't pay you. You lose all the money, plus all the time. Then again, you could email Google, and if they tell you this potential situation is okay, SAVE THEIR EMAIL, and when they ban you for fraudulent clicks, show them the email. I don't think it'll help, though. G doesn't care very much about us small publishers.
Hey, what can I say, I've been in this "article writing" biz a long time, and I've NEVER heard of anyone getting 200 articles A WEEK because his "friends and families" helped him out. Now, if you had said what you said above, that you have 200-400 people writing for you, okay, that makes sense! But come on, nobody's friends and families will spend so much time writing 4 articles of 500-words and above a week just to help out a bud. I'm sorry, but I've never had friends THAT nice. LOL.
I would agree with you with the exception of your last statement. Its not a matter of not caring but a matter of protecting their advertisers. Getting 90% of your clicks from 1 or 2 ips will always be suspicious, letter or no letter. After all it would be just as easy for someone to give that excuse then click their own ads for months if not years.
Why don't you put a small amount of adsense adds on the site to start with and see how it goes then if you get banned you haven't lost to much. Also email G and tell them you have a lot of visitors from schools and see what they say.
I'd say you stick to the current advertising option. It's going well, why ruin it?! Don't do this just because of "future possible" incomes. However - you could try rotating banners with adsense and see the results. And if G bans your website you won't have anything to worry about after that.
true. don't burn your bridges yet. your current advertising works very well for you, so you may want to experiment with adsense first, with the klnowledge that you may very well get banned. but at least you still ahve your current advertising.
I would say run both also. Run some tests with google. Maybe use Google ads to fill in spots where you don't have ads or replace low paying ads.
Perhaps you are not charging enough for the ads you do run. Upping the cost of ad slots may be your best option.
I think you will be banned by Google for to many clicks so you should sell your site.... to me Seriously speaking, I beleive you could get a lot more money from AS, and if you don't click the ads, you won't have problems. You should start removing only 50% of ads, putting in that 50% adsense. mihaidamianov, why wouldn't he earn more, if possible? why don't you stick to your "normal" job, instead of trying to get money from sites ?!
If I read right: 200 *10=2000 $ a month with adsense if you have 5% ctr 1500 * 0.05 * 0.10$ * 30 = 225 $ a month I say stick with this what you have so far. but if you have 90% ctr as you say (I don't know if this is viable, and will Google count all your clicks, I am a bit sceptical) 1500 * 0.9 * 0.10$ * 30 = 4050 $ a month The best is to experiment and mix AdSense with your other ads.
He stated that his average visitor clicks on 50 pages: 1500 * 30 * 50 * 0.05 * $0.10 = $11,250 Average page view of 50 is amazing. Total page views per month would be more accurate then calculating visitors * average page view. What is your url? (edit) unless Turnip means 1500 visitors = 1500 page views...
Please keep us posted when you start using AdSense. I am very interested about this. You have a gold mine if your tracking is correct.