Is this the begining of a ban?

Discussion in 'Google' started by paladin1, May 19, 2007.

  1. #1
    Here is the senario - I appreciate any insight you can give me to help the client...

    Client's site was ranked in #1 in Google for a 2 word phrase for the past several years (top 3 in Yahoo & MSN as well). Recently it droped out of that phrase entirley in Google (it is not on pages 1-3 and not iin the 950-1000 results either), but remains the strong in Yahoo & MSN.

    A search in Google for cache:http://www.domain.com/ returns:
    Your search - cache:http://www.domain.com/ - did not match any documents". So the home page is no longer cached.

    A search for site:www.domain.com returns about 1% of the pages that used to be indexed a few months ago. Most of those returned are in the Supplemental Index

    There have been no major on site changes during the last few months (with the exception of adding products and changing their descriptions to differ from the standard manufacturer descriptions).

    Any ideas?

    Thanks.
     
    paladin1, May 19, 2007 IP
  2. CountryBoy

    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    #2
    There's a tool over at IWEBTOOL you can use to check. I recommend you go and have a look.
     
    CountryBoy, May 19, 2007 IP
  3. BigBadWolf

    BigBadWolf Well-Known Member

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    #3
    That tool (Google Banned Checker) is pretty useless all it does is run a site:domain.com search, if you show up it says your not banned if you don't you are, doesn't do much.
     
    BigBadWolf, May 19, 2007 IP
  4. zehrila

    zehrila Peon

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    #4
    Have had happened to me but after few days every result was back so my suggestion would be wait and see what happens.
     
    zehrila, May 19, 2007 IP
  5. Nickower

    Nickower Banned

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    #5
    This is because google has released "Universal Search" which means that it takes into account Videos, News & images when decideing who will be ranked highly.
     
    Nickower, May 19, 2007 IP
  6. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    #6
    if there is indexed pages by google, i dont think it's banned or at the star of banning. it may be related bad data push. my suggest is checking it 1 or 2 weeks later. think it will be corrected
     
    trichnosis, May 20, 2007 IP
  7. mhmdkhamis

    mhmdkhamis Well-Known Member

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    #7
    no it will back adain dont worry
    when the last time your pages cashed
     
    mhmdkhamis, May 20, 2007 IP
  8. FastWeb

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    #8
    Google is experimenting again, and it doesn't surprise me that you've lost pages. Give it a bit of time, and your SERPs and indexed pages should be back.
     
    FastWeb, May 20, 2007 IP
  9. Dave E

    Dave E Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Happened to one of my clients sites (www.madtrick.com) fairly recently, homepage just disapaered for a few days , don't swet it too much, I'm sure you will be back. Have you had any down time recently?
     
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  10. paladin1

    paladin1 Member

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    Thanks for all the responses. So far we are still stuck (its been a week now).

    It is an ecommerce site with 30K+pages. most of them still have toolbar pagerank and Google links, but does not show up in the Google cache.

    Client is freaking out as he was relying heavily on the free Google traffic.
     
    paladin1, May 21, 2007 IP
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    #11
    I'm sure you need a new techniques of SEOs for your client site.
     
    tradeya, May 21, 2007 IP
  12. paladin1

    paladin1 Member

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    One always needs new techniques. It is an evolving field.
     
    paladin1, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #13
    You have to wait couple of weeks to get clear picture, some time its happened with search engines.
     
    seoprofessional, May 21, 2007 IP
  14. Cheap SEO Services

    Cheap SEO Services <------DoFollow Backlinks

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    #14
    The only way to check is to get yourself a Google Webmaster account. Register your site and find out there.

    Col :)
     
    Cheap SEO Services, May 21, 2007 IP
  15. reapr

    reapr Peon

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    #15
    I would wait it out for several days. This seems to be the norm in the last update.
     
    reapr, May 21, 2007 IP
  16. login

    login Notable Member

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    #16
    It can get back, I have experienced this also, and got back.
    I have a site now that has suddenly lost all PR (with 2000 backlinks in Yahoo) and a lot are in supp. Waiting to see what will happen.
     
    login, May 22, 2007 IP
  17. paladin1

    paladin1 Member

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    #17
    I guess I can't blame Google for this one. Turns out that the company that is managing & hosting the site added the following to the HTTP Headers:

    Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
    Pragma: no-cache


    Now I just have to get them to removes those headers, and get the client's site re-indexed.
     
    paladin1, May 22, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    #18
    Never seen those before. What do each of them do ?
     
    login, May 22, 2007 IP
  19. nxb22833

    nxb22833 Banned

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    I will also change hosting too. Is it a free hosting co? If not, I'll be :mad:
     
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  20. paladin1

    paladin1 Member

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    nxb22833
    "I will also change hosting too. Is it a free hosting co? If not, I'll be :mad:" - No, not free hosting, it is in a convoluted e-commerce system. The client tried to move away from them a couple of years ago, but it is a huge headache (and probably 10's of 1000's of dollars) for him to do so. Maybe this will give him the push he needs to move to a better system.


    login
    "Never seen those before. What do each of them do ?"
    They pretty much tell the search engines to go away. The commands tell the boots not to save a local copy. Now without a local copy, the pages cannot be indexed or ranked.
     
    paladin1, May 22, 2007 IP