I'm talking about the good ol' Warrior Forum. I started browsing there recently, and now i'm convinced it's a requirement to have an IQ lower than 80 to post there. I started trying to read some of their threads and either I was having an anneurysm or that was some of the most retarded advice I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm not someone who writes for Fortune 500 companies by any means.. but here are some of the things I saw in there. "All sales copies are honest.. people who are not honest never get jobs and never make sales." ...What..? Are you kidding me? All salesmen are honest huh? Alright, cool.. moving on. "pre-sales hype is the biggest myth of all time" I about lost it here. All the major corporations and product launchers pre-hype their stuff almost a year in advance to build hype. Can you imagine if Sony/Microsoft/or any other massive game publisher were to just put a new major game on shelves tomorrow without any hype? Or imagine if tomorrow "iPhone 6 now available" So apparently Frank Kern, Mike Filsaime, Kelly Felix and other big name gurus are doing it wrong since they're pre-sales hyping all of their products. My god.. I thought the Content Creation section was here bad.. but at least they don't make my head hurt. They make me laugh.. but the Warrior Forum.. what in the world? Are these people for real? I've never really browsed that forum before but I had an account and now I know why I left a couple of years ago to never return.. it's a cesspool of stupidity and misinformation. I also saw how delusional everyone was. Apparently everyone there makes $2,000-$20,000 per Copy job done despite spending 24/7 on the forum. I also noticed none of them know what WHOIS protection apparently and one of their precious "experts" actually lives in a Ghetto in a trailer lol. I also saw some 15,000+ poster posing a woman but actually turns out to be a 50+ year old man... kind of creepy but ok. The creepy part was he/she wasn't trying to sell anything, apparently he just likes being a woman on the internet. Whelp.. after seeing the Warrior Forum, that's enough internet for me today..
Not every section on Warrior Forum is that way. I've had great success there. It may seem like many people are full of it because many of the postings are from those that are new on the forum and new to internet marketing/copy writing as well. There is a ton of great advice, great people and more importantly great money on that website that I haven't been able to find on many other forums. So while not every thread is a gem.. there are many there that can change how you think and how you make money.
There are a ton of A-list marketers on that forum including Mike Filsaime. As far as copywriters go, there are a couple of great copywriters there as well. Jay White, Tina Lorenz, David Garfinkel, Harlan Kilstien, Brian Mcleod, Colin Theriot and others. They do get a little "rough" sometimes with other members for no reason at all. That's one of the reasons why I slowed down so much there since I got my internship to write copy. Most of the time i'm there is basically see what's new and what's going on.
There are a lot of heavy duty marketers on WaFo. You just have to wade through a lot of stuff. The reason it can sometimes fill up with low quality posts is because the people there, for the most part, are very polite. Rude behavior is not tolerated by the mods. Each forum has its own personality.
I have recently joined WF and have been quite impressed with a lot of the advice etc... floating around. I know that you mean about some of the simple things that are asked and downright wrong advice that is given but you get that on any forum including DP.
@Jimmy Russel: I have been equally disturbed by some of the stuff I've seen over there. There are a lot of good, knowledgeable people on that site. But the amount of (willful?) ignorance over there gives me the creeps sometimes. It's like you have to play a game of "whack-a-mole" to get to the good info. I saw a reply the other day where this guy literally said, "The hard sell is for amateurs." Really? I thought a sale was a sale...and all we cared about were results. Keeps things interesting, I guess. Best, Corey