Is This Ethical? Creating a Dating Product w/o Being Successful w/ Women

Hey,

I have a huge interest with creating a product to help men with getting dates and being more successful with seducing women.

You see when I was younger I had some level of success with women.

Plenty of girls have had crushes on me but the ironic thing is that I'm a virgin, never kissed, dated or been in a relationship.

And frankly I have no interest! I don't feel insecure or needy nor do I feel unfulfilled.

I simply don't care . In fact, I actually PREFER to not get involved with women.

But I want to help men be successful with women.

Do you think it's unethical if I'm selling a product for men to succeed?

I'm mean as long as I'm selling a quality product which works for men and does what it does? Do you think it's ok morally?

 

About as ethical as pretending to be Eben Pagan.

 

serious responses only.

EbenPagan is a name I simply used to hide my identity on forums. Forums are not safe for your privacy.

 

I guess everything is legitimate as long as quality is intact. There is no question if its ethical or not. I think you should go with it, but i doubt people would want to buy it. Most of *us* would interpret it as another spam/scam product!

 

I think the whole 'successful' term is very subjective. Having said that based upon what you've stated I'd say that it is more than morally acceptable. You must remember that it is a business and as the lawyer who posted to your question first can surely attest - business, unfortunately, often times comes with a lack thereof.

I think regardless, however - You're definitely in the clear, mate - Though it wouldn't hurt to get a little female company to understand them a bit better - I'm sure it would help your approach to the subject a bit more.

Cheers,

 

Stop using my name, or I'm going to kick your ass so far up, you can use it as a hat.

 

@Blain271

Yeah - I was thinking of testing out the techniques myself to see how it works. The thing is I don't want to have sex with someone I don't like or have any genuine interest.

I was thinking of creating the product and then having people test it out to see what type of success it gives them. I also plan on offering a life-time money back guarantee.

Anyway - I figure that as long as the customer gets the results they want and they get something in return for what they gave their money for - then I mean is it really dishonest if I'm not experienced with women?

Does my success really matter - if I'm getting my customers lots of success and customers who aren't satisfied are given refunds (life-time refund policy). ?

John Carlton once said that he didn't know anything about golf but he could teach people how to golf really well. In fact, he also said that people who can golf really well - can't teach other how to golf at all. In fact - if they do - they usually end up messing up their own golf swing.

So I think it really depends. I mean I'm giving my customers the results?

PS. In my marketing I do not claim of being highly successfully personally. I do however use a cartoon character. Think disney.

 

Don't get yourself hung up on that, mate - It has little relevance on whether or not your -business- will be successful. After all, you're providing a service for people to get to know each other, right? Not just to get down and dirty with one another, but to meet friends and in turn, new lovers. Think of it that way and don't let your mind get stuck on any one aspect of it for too long.

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Best of luck!

-Blain

 

It looks like this asshole needs a mud hole stomped in his back.

 

How can you classify yourself as 'successful' with the ladies without being 'successful?' It's somewhat weird for someone who's "never been kissed" to give advise on how to pick up women. It's like someone without a cooking experience offering cooking advise. Have you been in a relationship? If so, why no physical 'deeds' and if not, how are you judging your 'success' as how many girls are your pals?

Also, what would be your pitch for your product?

Never-Been Kissed Virgin offers the Sure-Fire Ways to Attract Women and to Find the Perfect Match ONLY $19.95!!!

I don't think you'd get any buyers, unless you pretend to have actually touched a female.

 

I've already stated.

I haven't been in a relationship. I already stated that I'm "somewhat successful because of countless women showing interest".

I also used this one mind control technique I invented on several girls and they have all showed me sexual attraction. (it was obvious they wanted me & everyone was looking at us)

I justify it by the merit that if the customer is getting result - then it's not scamming. You don't agree? Why not? Explain your case?

I want to see all points of views and mature constructive advice.

 

SCLocal,

The product is not branded as me. It is branded as a cartoon character. I'm not going to offer information on the name of the cartoon or anything like that. I'm also not asking of whether or not it would work.

Because I am pretty sure it would work. I have been in pursuit of the domain for 1 year and I have finally gotten it. I did a class project on the idea of it as well and it created a lot of interest, entertainment, engagement and humor in the classmates as well.

It standed out.

I'm simply asking what is the ethics and morality of doing it. I think the idea is great and the business concept/idea/branding I believe strongly in.

 

So you are gauging your 'success' on how you perceive 'countless women' showing interest, how do you know they are showing interest? Your best bet for a successful product is to find willing participants (males) who want to be 'trained using your methods' and then to have their results speak for the Overall Success of your Product. That seems the most rational thing. You don't need to mention that you are a virgin/never-been-kissed, and I wouldn't. Your Customers will want to think of you as the 'be-all-and-end-all' for everything pertaining to getting/attracting women. Past Client Testimonials is your best bet and as long as it's their actual success that is mentioned, you're good to go. I wouldn't qualify your "success" as actually being successful, sorry to put it bluntly but that's my opinion and one that I'm certain is shared by the majority of the (American) Male population. A guy who's been 'successful' with the women has actually bagged a few of them.

 

Ok SCLocal,

I appreciate your advice. Thanks for your 2 cents. You DO make some excellent points. I mean customers do expect you to be the end-all and know-it all.

PS. I've had plenty of girls say I was "hot", "sexy", "cute", "handsome" and a few have pursued me.

 

You should carry on with your work... & You should not use the slang in this forum.. Or the admin. will block u..

 

Care to elaborate more on this?

 

How can you be able to sell that if you yourself didn't even tried to use it? Seducing women in that way would be a very ridiculous! Nobody can control the emotions of an individual except his/her self.

Manifest Marketing

 

In that case, dont offer dating advise. Just create a product to "attract women". That is more appropriate, given your experience.

 

A lot of people are not skilled at what they teach about. Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." Whether it's ethical or not is up to you. What do you care if other people think it's ethical or not?

 

LOL. You are going to create a product to help men with dating; one for which you have no experience, and two you won't be able to test....

and lol at you being OK with beign a virgin, keep tellling yourself that.

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