Is there a webhost out there similar to hostgator plans beside hostgator? Maybe better quality? I need an account with SSH access with a real bash shell not a jailed shell. Lots of space and bandwidth reliable and never down........is there any such place?
With vps you will not lot of space like hostgator because most of the company just oversell their space and bandwidth. Here is a vps http://www.vpsland.com/ezseries.html Also if you tell me your budget I can find a good solution.
I am looking into 1&1 business plan right now........ I really would like it to be as cheap as possible but if the place was right and just what I needed then I don't mind paying $20 a month or more. I need the secruity of uptime, a real bash shell, and vim for my development work and of course php, mysql. and decent control panel would be nice.
1&1 will not give you bash shell. Also their connection is very slow. I suggest to share a dedicated server with few people.
Try cheapvps.co.uk - and get it with lxadmin. they are good and cheap - but you are on your own with the VPS. Their mother brand is a2b2.com - they have more expensive options and managed services. Good luck.
You're not going to find any shared solutions giving you real shell opposed to jailed. I don't think they want customers viewing other customers data.
that's not true........they can have the server set with permissions not to see the /home directory....... for instance if my username is foo I can only see what is in /home/foo but not what is /home. they can do that and still allow access to /bin/bash.
If my knowledge serves me right what you're describing is a chroot environment which is exactly what jailed shell is. It gives you access to specific folders while locking you out of others. I'm really curious why would you would need non jail shell when jailed is the same as what you described anyways.
I frequently need to use or have access to gcc or other utilities that are normally in your path when using bash for the development work I do. It's really dumb to have to ask for wget to be enabled or anything else for that matter. I understand the security issues supposedly solved by jailshell...however if I send in a photo ID that should be enough to turn in to the authorities if I were to hack the machine.......which I definately don't need or even want to do. I just need to be able to do work. I heard that with Dreamhost you can get a real shell .....I am going to check on that now. Edit: Yep Dream host does give full bash shell......and the plans look pretty good too... Anybody have any experiences with Dreamhost?
Actually I believe you're still jailed and it has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact most hosts using cPanel actually disable compilers for unprivileged users since cPanel gives them the ability to do it. The host can enable compilers for specific users, but most do not due to the exploits that can be ran if you can compile things.
Yes any host is jailing your shell access unless they want you destroying their server. Every host is providing a chroot environment. The only difference is what they decide on giving you access to. Some may decide nothing in /home nothing in /usr/local/apache/ and nothing in /etc/ . Others it could vary but every time you are jailed to a degree as otherwise you could grab files from other customers, take configuration files from the server ect. due to the fact permissions probably are set to still give anyone read access to these files.