Is there a Muslim country where women have the same rights as men?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by WebdevHowto, Jan 19, 2009.

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    Does a country like that exist, if so, what country is it? Please don't say Iran or Saudi Arabia, because you will get an "F" for Failure to read the question.
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    In Islam, women and men are equal in the sight of God, but they have different natures, they differ biologically, psychologically, and physiologically, such differences make each role different in life, women are more suitable for certain responsibilities than men, and men are more suitable for other certain responsibilities than women,

    these responsibilities even if different they are equal, each has his/her equal share of responsibility, as a result both have equal rights but not the same rights,

    for example, women in Islam have the right to keep all their money, even if they were working women they do not have to spend on family unless if it was volunteer to help, while the man is obligated to spend from his money on his family,

    women rights in Islam can be summarized but not limited to:
    source

    despite the teachings of Islam are the same in all Islamic countries, each Islamic country does not follow Islam teaching in the same way, for example, in some Islamic countries women can not vote, while in other countries like Indonesia they elected a Muslim woman as the president, Bangladesh, Turkey, Pakistan also elected women as prime ministers, there are women ministers in many other Islamic countries,

    in some Islamic countries women can't get a driving license, while in other countries policewomen are driving police cars.

    the differences are mostly because the traditions that are different from one Islamic country to another, in many cases women struggle in Islamic countries where they are oppressed, are to implement Islamic teachings in regard of their rights.
     
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    surfaddict Active Member

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    I believe a lot of country in which Muslim people can stay in harmony and women been treated equally with man.

    Asia Country like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand , Singapore..etc..don't have a problem with this issue.
     
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    Qatar is moving towards equality...
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    In all Turkic countries; Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzistan, N.Cyprus(de facto). Although there are remaining human rights issues to an extent, gender-based discrimination is non-existent.
     
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  6. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    don't forget Algeria. I have lived there for 12 years since I was a kid.
     
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    lol...

    is there female president? or vice president for USA?

    many muslim countries have female president or vice president, should I give an example?
    is benazir bhutto ring a bell for you???
    if they can become a president, prime minister... what else you ask for more???
     
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  8. Reseg

    Reseg Peon

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    bfebrian, what does being president or vp have to do with rights of women? Yes they have the right to run for office in the US and in fact the last election, nearly 50% of the US voted for a female VP. If I were to guess, I'd say most are smart enough to not want to run. I think you have to be a little whacko to want to be President or VP of the US with how hated you will be by at least 1/3 of the world and the US as well, no matter what you do. If you don't give money and food, you're hated by that group for not giving aid, if you DO give money and/or food, you're hated by their enemies for aiding them. Then there's the whole retarded weapons trade and sales where it's impossible to come out clean.

    My question is, in the Muslim countries that allow honor killings, are the boys under the same rules the girls are that would make them subject to such horrific actions? My understanding of honor killings are that girls and women must follow very strict rules regarding clothing, marriage, and sex or they can dishonor a family which then they may need to kill her to regain their honor. This is allowed by some Muslim countries and groups without punishment by law of those who killed? So, with that said, again, are the males subject to the same laws as the females in this? I've read many countries allow it by law and many that don't still overlook it. Can you clear that up?
     
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  9. AliR

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    Well in Pakistan a women won it, shows that women are treated equally. And im not just talking about one country. I`m sure more then 75 Percent Muslim countries would agree.

    Name 5
     
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  10. DevilHellz

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    That doesn't seem very comfortable.
     
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    lol 5? What made you come up with that #?

    ok, here are 5 as requested:

    1) Iran
    2) Palestinian National Authority
    3) Egypt
    4) Jordan
    5) Syria

    And that's not all, more Muslim and some non-Muslim countries.

    Source: Wikipedia

    As far as you saying since a woman was elected President in Pakistan that proves they have equal rights, you may want to read this from the same Wikipedia article:

    Rather than make excuses, defend, or argue it, let's address it for what it's worth and what it means.
     
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  12. AliR

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    Reply to this : This text is exaggerated to a great extent, Such a thing is unheard off, and when they say it was for his honor it means something deep, does not mean that someone hurts your ego and you go kill him. I assure you most of that is bullshit, Wikipedia is a unreliable source as it can be edited by anyone and everyone. Shaukat Aziz had the ministers and all the politicians under him, and it is widely known his cases were shunned and ignored because of that.

    And to further prove my point.. and not look like im making silly excuses, i`ll provide you Ahadis regarding this matter.Read this
    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543392
     
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  13. Reseg

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    WTF does a woman becoming Primeminister have to do with Woman's rights? The UK did it in the 80's :)
     
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    ;) Hopefully i can clear up the misunderstandings regarding Islam :)

    Just prooves that if the majority of the people want a women to become there leader, they obviously dont consider them a inferior race.
     
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    Indonesia has female muslim president few years ago

    US never have female president and the sexual harassments and domestic violences toward women are pretty serious

    inequality against women happen everywhere, don't blame islam for this
     
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  17. Alan|AzH

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    There is no nation on earth where women and men have the same rights, so stop beating Islam around the head.
     
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    Just because we haven't had a female president doesn't mean women are not equal in the US. The only woman to really try was hillary clinton, and she's not liked by too many americans for who she is. We have plenty of Senators/Representatives/Governors that were women. When a woman actually gets nominated by her party (which is based on popular opinion) then she will run. America has been equal for women for quite a long time. What do your women make salary wise compared to men?

    And what does sexual harassment and domestic violence have to do with equality? Those are individual choices of people, and are crimes. Your country has criminals if I recall correctly.

    He asked a simple question and you try to turn it around.
     
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  19. Alan|AzH

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU SERIOUS? :confused::confused:

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2005pubs/p60-229.pdf Page 14 of Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2004 by the U.S. CENSUS BUREAU.

    Whilst I abhore cheap point scoring again the US, the ignorance of some citizens regarding domestic affairs is rather remarkable.
     
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    It's actually much closer than that report makes it appear. Many economists and studies agreed this census was off due to not taking into account things like the time off women often take for childbirth. See, men's bodies aren't designed to carry a child through pregnancy nor are they typically the chosen parent to breast feed lol. The study showed that instead of the 77% your link gives, it's actually 89% of what men make.

    That 11% was found to be two areas:

    1) Men and their testosterone pushing them to negotiate more to push for raises and higher salaries while the women weren't often as pushy. One study showed men were 4 times more likely to negotiate a starting salary for more money than women.

    2) The job they often take, men tended to be more risk taking with hazordous jobs for the extra pay while at the same time women were much more likely than men to take a service job that involved tips which are often not fully reported as income.

    Men's bodies are stronger and women are more caring by nature, these things will effect the jobs they take and work they do and likely cause pay rates to never be exactly the same between the two. We have different levels of chemicals and hormones running through our bodies causing us to desire different things in life (FYI). I don't feel your link when taking this into account really shows the inequality you're pointing at though I don't deny there are cases of it in the US.


    Please tell me you're not a guy that looks at a statistic and takes it for face value only. Numbers can tell you anything depending how they're put together.
     
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