Is There A Market For AdSense Niches That Pay Only $0.50-$1.20 Per Click On Average?

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    #21
    Well, I'm confused. According to your emperical evidence, which way does smartpricing works? You get smarpriced when your CTR goes up or down?

    Smartpricing get's usually equated with EPC. Less you make per click means you might have been smartpriced. But in this case, it's very easy to see if it's true or not. We can take any person who did not change any content for a while and kept getting traffic from the same sources, and then compare EPC values with CTR. There actually a lot of publishers who have not touched their site in a year or more. When smartpricing was implemented last spring someone (I think it might have been Jen of Jensense.com) wrote that changing CTR won't get you smart priced. I don't know why you think that you will. I'm sure that other's people earnings will differ from mine, even if we both have identical content, but it won't have to do anything with CTRs. Rather the factors will be smartpricing, source and type of traffic.
     
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    #22
    I don't believe there is any mystery. Let me quote another of Jen's Post (Jensense.com)

    "At Search Engine Strategies Chicago in December, Emily White spoke briefly about contextual advertising... from the advertisers point of view, and complete with a fancy power point to illustrate it.

    Smart pricing was launched on April 7, 2004, amid cheers from the advertisers and jeers from a large percentage of publishers. But interestingly, since the launch of smart pricing, advertiser ROI in content has increased 50%.

    In a nutshell, smart pricing estimates what the ROI would be on any given publisher's webpage for the ads running on there, and discount the cost of that ad to the advertiser, and thus the earnings the publisher would make on that click.

    This means that if a page has a higher liklihood of conversion, the advertiser may pay higher than the same ad running on a page where the liklihood of a conversion is much lower. This discounting is done automatically and "on the fly".

    With such a dramatic increase of ROI to advertisers, it should encourage advertisers who may have initially turned off content targeting in their Adwords account to perhaps give it another try. Advertisers will likely discover a lower cost associated with running their ads on the content network, as well as seeing a lower cost and higher ROI when compared to their ads run on content last year."

    Nobody ever showed that CTR has anything to do with smartpricing ... because it does not. Smartpricing is a function of conversion (ROI)
     
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    #23
    This should be in sales not discussion as it is quite obviously spam.

    Notting
     
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    #24
    This isn't spam. I'm not putting any links in posts. I'm not hiding the fact that I'm starting a site with an objective of selling this information. I'm doing market research, because I want to know if this information is something that worth a lot of money or not.
     
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    #25
    I'm not sure where this came from either. Even went back and reread all the posts thinking that you slipped in a url or something. Spam this is not. In fact it is a very healthy disscusion.
     
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    #26
    Many smaller clicks across a host of sites is certainly the way I would recommend.
     
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    #27
    Come again, did not get that. In my experience staying away from publishing news that I know contain keywords that did not pay well in the past is what makes me more money, even when there are less clicks. In other words, not only do you need to concentrate in the areas that you know pay better, you should also abstain from the ones that get you 5 cents for click.
     
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    #28
    Not sure who you were replying to with this point !
     
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    #29
    To you, Old Welsh Guy. Why would you want "many smaller clicks".
     
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    #30
    What I am saying is that chasing the top paying adsense clicks is not the best option. Far better that you are going for a host of phrases across a alarger number of sites. The earnings then will not be up and down, but more stable
     
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    #31
    I think that chasing top paying keywords is poinless, because what people think are top paying keywords aren't paying well at all. What I am advocating is using channels and tracking software and seeing which topics (keywords) pay more and which pay less. I think this is very important to increasing your AdSense earnings. I've doubled my EPC and then doubled it again. You've absolutely got to know what makes you money
     
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    #32
    I absolutely agree with you on this. I was just passing a comment about how people are often chasing shadows.
     
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    #33
    Last month I got $0.12 per click and made $x,xxx. The amount per click isn't that relevant if you can drive traffic to your page. Ad relevency and traffic are more important.
     
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    #34
    Adsense CPC varies time to time so you cannot rely on any niche on that basis. :)
     
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    #35
    Driving traffic isn't an easy proposition. Becides, I occasionally enjoy a surge of Digg.Com or RedDit.Com traffic (these guys aren't really ad clickers) but I make decent money only when my average EPC is over 50 cents. You probably can easily double your earnings if you get a tracking script and start analyzing what makes you money. You'll find out that it's not $0.12 clicks that make you that much, but more expensive clicks. The average EPC shows that you have a bunch of low performing ads.
     
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    #36
    I disagree. I've seen wild swings for earning for a single article in a single day from $2.75 to $0.45, with the average EPC of $1.20. Sure, it may change go up or down over time, but it's not going to pay me 10 cents. I've been with AdSense for two years, sometimes I run articles on the same topic over a period of time and average CPC does change, but it's more like - up from $0.40 to $0.60 or down from $0.60 to $0.40, but no matter how you slice it it's better than the time when I used to get 9 cent average or 19 cent average (which I thought was pretty good)
     
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    #37
    Aren't such scripts prohibited? I don't want to risk having my account banned, but if these scripts are allowed I'll give one a go.

     
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    #38
    well i have clicks from 1 cent to 1.5 dollar really all on the same subject ... so your information is not really worth for me ... well maybe one 3c click :)
     
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    #39
    Hi,

    Without having read all the replies wich your post got here ... I DID read the original post and I'd like to say that I don't know how much that information could be worth. Simply taking into account the fact that these ppc prices are always changing. As you know... the ppc price depends mostly on the bidprice and these change frequently... so I really wouldn't know how this tested niche information would be reliable in any way ..

    gdev
     
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    #40
    Yeah, I've been thinking about that. But here is what I thought - the best thing I can do is send report twice a week about what's current, niches that I discovered a few days ago. This way a person would receive fresh valid information. I would not make a single list of keywords and then sell it. Not only some information would quickly go outdates (seasonal trends for example), publishing the entire list might quickly kill it if MFA folks get a hold of it.
     
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