Is SEO in a srong relation with PR?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Fracisc, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. #1
    I have a site with many original articles, it is active, etc but.. PR is zero. In my opinion, it should have at least PR3, and maybe it will on the next update. But why is it taking so long?
     
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  2. Mike Griffiths

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    Google openly tell you not to concentrate on PR. PR is essentially a legacy system. It's not the be all and end all. A high PR site isn't more likely to rank for a keyphrase than a low PR site.

    That being said, PR is based mainly on your backlinks. If you have a ton of high PR sites linking to you only, then you'll have a high PR. I have a site with over 50 PR 7 backlinks and over 200 PR 6 backlinks, but it's only a PR 2 site (well, the homepage is PR2). This is because I have a large number of low PR backlinks that dillutes the PR of the high quality sites. It doesn't mean that I don't rank well though. Also, it depends on how many outbound links the high PR page that links to you has. If there are 1000 outbound links on the page aswell as yours then you'll be sharing the PR passed through that link with all of the other links.
     
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    :) you can't get PR with only quality article, you need quality backlink too.
     
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  4. infogle

    infogle Prominent Member

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    SEO reality... check: PR is already of no use. Google has already dropped PR.
     
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  5. KevinACrider

    KevinACrider Member

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    PageRank is only updated 3 or 4 times a year. It can take several months for your website to receive it's first PageRank. Keep in mind, a PageRank of 0 is NOT the same as having no PageRank.
     
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  6. BrianSisko

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    I'm really starting to get confused over the whole PR thing. Is it worth worrying about or not? So many people say it's no longer relevent, yet its seems to used all the time as a way of measuring the quality of backlinks.
     
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  7. wiseman.wiseman05

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    Basically SEO seeks traffic and make backlinks. If you've quality backlinks then your page rank will boost up automatically. So there's no direct relationship between SEO and PR. The mediator is backlinks. The more quality links, the more faster ranking.
     
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  8. KevinACrider

    KevinACrider Member

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    PageRank is extremely relevant and should not be overlooked. PageRank matters on the sites you get your back links from, as well as your own site.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    Regardless of what some people will tell you, there is a correlation between PR and traffic. The harder you work on getting backlinks, the more traffic you will get, which will result in a higher PR as well.
     
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  10. searchblogger

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    I wouldn't worry too much about it at the moment. My blog is also currently a PR0 but it's because it's fairly new and missed the last update. Just keep building quality, relevant backlinks and adding new original content to your site.
     
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  11. infogle

    infogle Prominent Member

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    PR is all the way not an issue to gain your SEO - PR has got no value in google search policy too and it was dropped way back - since now the only thing one should worry about is to have backlinks - quality backlinks.
     
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  12. KevinACrider

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    In your opinion, why should your site have a PageRank of 3?
     
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  13. KevinACrider

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    Where do you get your information? You don't really think that Google doesn't care about PageRank anymore, do you?

    The only thing people should worry about is backlinks? Keep following this strategy and you'll end in the same boat as eZineArticles. Google is not going to let people keep spamming backlinks for much longer.
     
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  14. infogle

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    Come to light... myfriend...

    Google has officially erased the PR from Google webmaster

    Read this for some information: Click Here

    Read this also where: Susan Moskwa (Webmaster Trends Analyst at Google) says they have dropped PR: Click Here

    If these two does not help - then do google for some information on page rank dropped.

    Hope now it helps...
     
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  15. Jonah_fish

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    Infogle, you're wrong..... Both of the articles you link to don't say that Google have stopped using PR, merely that they have dropped the metric from Webmaster Tools to stop people obsessing about it.
     
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    #16
    you need quality back links to get PR for your pages mostly
     
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  17. KevinACrider

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    Did you even read the links you provided? The first link specifically says PageRank is one of 200 different metrics used to rank your site. How do you get that the PageRank doesn't matter from that? It simply says that as a website owner you should not be worried if your page is not ranked or if it hasn't changed. It also says that if your interested in statistics that you should stress over your PageRank. Nowhere does it say Google does not use a PageRank anymore, it actually says the exact opposite.

    Interestingly enough, the second article also backs that up. It says they removed the display of the PageRank for Google Webmaster Tools (so website owners do not stress over it). Again, it does not say they did away with PageRanks. They simply took it off the Webmaster Tools so you do not see it.

    Both articles do in fact state that the PageRank is used to rank your website.

    To recap: Google DOES use PageRank to measure your website. Google also admits that website owners should not be stressing over the PageRank as it is only one of over 200 different metrics they use to determine your ranking (hence removing it's display from GWT). Thank you for providing those links as it further proves what I said is, in fact, correct.
     
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  18. KevinACrider

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    I have no idea why my post just now got posted, as I said essentially the same thing that Jonah_fish said. I apologize for reiterating what he said.
     
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  19. infogle

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    #19
    You are happy to live in your customize world far from reality... but the truth will not change :)

    You are stressing on the fact that PR is still important - but have you goggled yourself to see what i said.

    Not correcting you any further...

    Period!
     
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  20. KevinACrider

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    Lol, You're still trying to argue even after your own links proved your theory wrong.

    You continue trying to get it right and I'll continue to cash checks from several hundred satisfied customers.
     
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