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Is Obama A Natural Born Citizen?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #481
    Remember to ignore all of the smears and lies being spread by the John McCain/Dick Cheney/Fox News campaign and vote on the issues tomorrow.

    The issues are solidly on Barack Obama's side. Obama is right on the economy, he's right on health care, he's right on energy, he's right on education, he's right on foreign policy.
    SEMrush
    Don't make your vote based on fear. Make an informed decision for the betterment of America's future. We all know what the GOP will do with the next four years, we've seen what they've done over the last eight years. Let's see what the Democrats can do (they did pretty good in the 1990s, right?)

    Make sure all of your friends and family get to the voting booth tomorrow to vote for Barack Obama. Go to VoteForChange.com if you don't know where your polling location is.
     
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    SEMrush
  2. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #482
    If you post that one more time I'm going to ban you!
     
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  3. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #483
    Crazy Rob - why is that? People keep posting the same lies about Obama over and over again and I don't see you threatening them with a ban?

    I never stoop the level of personal attacks so I don't think such a warning is reasonable.
     
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  4. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #484

    I don't care- just don't do it again!

    Thanks!
     
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  5. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #485
    Crazy Rob - Obama is going to win tomorrow (by a large margin) regardless of your power on this message board. But if this sort of thing makes you feel better, cool.
     
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  6. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #486
    Thank you! :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Firegirl

    Firegirl Peon

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    #487
    When did I become part of the GOP?? That's news to me....

    Stop trying to blame EVERYTHING that you don't like on the GOP, I'm not even a Republican.

    You don't seem to have your facts straight before you talk. See, that's what's so scary here. People who don't even know the facts voting for the future of our country....
     
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  8. Zibblu

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    #488
    Firegirl - what facts are you speaking of? The fact that you are or are not a Republican? I don't really care what your party ID is - if you are supporting McCain then you are supporting the side of lies. McCain has ran his entire campaign on lies.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #489
    No offense, but don't you find your statements a bit hypocritical given that you are doing exactly what you have said the "other side" is doing?

    Its easier to call someone a liar. Backing it up is something entirely different.
     
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    infopage Peon

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    #490
    What you all seem to be missing is that McCain was NOT born in the US but in Panama...what's up with that :?:
     
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  11. Zibblu

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    Actually it's very very easy to back it up when it comes to McCain & Palin. They have told so many lies in their speeches, talking points, and in their despicable ads that it's become harder to pick out the few true parts than find the lies.

    Here's 175 documented lies by the McCain/Palin campaign.
     
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  12. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #492
    Welcome to 25 pages ago! :rolleyes:
     
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  13. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #493
    He was born to two Americans. this has been addressed many times, McCain is American without a doubt.
     
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  14. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #494
    Prove it! :rolleyes:
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #495
    Yet you fail to point to any reliable source of such a claim.
     
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  16. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #496
    easy

    John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[7] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[8] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[9]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
     
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  17. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #497

    So basically Wikipedia is your proof? Hmm... ok, guy! :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #498
    Its kinda hard not to trust a viewer edited internet resource that has the number one result for every google search.
    :rolleyes:

    Google should just make a Wiki result link and leave wiki out of regular search results. That are we should just use wiki instead of google when conducting searches on the internet. :eek::D
     
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  19. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #499
    No Rob, Federal Law is my proof

    From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
    [wais.access.gpo.gov]
    [Laws in effect as of January 24, 2002]
    [Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
    January 24, 2002 and December 19, 2002]
    [CITE: 8USC1403]


    TITLE 8--ALIENS AND NATIONALITY

    CHAPTER 12--IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY

    SUBCHAPTER III--NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION

    Part I--Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization

    Sec. 1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama
    on or after February 26, 1904

    (a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904,
    and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose
    father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or
    is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the
    United States.
    (b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February
    26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this
    chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such
    person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the
    Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or
    its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United
    States.

    (June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, Sec. 303, 66 Stat. 236.)

    References in Text

    For definition of Canal Zone, referred to in text, see section
    3602(b) of Title 22, Foreign Relations and Intercourse.
    The effective date of this chapter, referred to in text, is the
    180th day immediately following June 27, 1952. See section 407 of act
    June 27, 1952, set out as an Effective Date note under section 1101 of
    this title.

    Change of Name

    Panama Railroad Company redesignated Panama Canal Company by act
    Sept. 26, 1950, ch. 1049, Sec. 2(a)(2), 64 Stat. 1038. References to
    Panama Canal Company in laws of the United States are deemed to refer to
    Panama Canal Commission pursuant to section 3602(b)(5) of Title 22,
    Foreign Relations and Intercourse.

    Section Referred to in Other Sections

    This section is referred to in section 1452 of this title.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #500

    I just looked and Wikipedia told me Obama was born in the USA and is an American.

    ...THREAD CLOSED!!!!


    :D
     
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