Is Obama A Natural Born Citizen?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #261
    To bad Palin doesn't have 9001 days of experiences .

    Then it would be OVER 9000!!!!

    Seriously wtf? How did you get your numbers? Are you bad at math or something......
     
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  2. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #262
    North, it is in fact much-vaunted experience in comparison with Barak Hussein Obama, in an executive position, Unless you don't consider mayor as an executive position?

    Sure Wasilla is a small city, but its a city none the less. It actually has a population of 9,780, which is double what you posted. What was obama doing? Beginning his corrupt career as a community organizer?

    Sarah Palin is clearly more experienced as an executive. To argue this is silly.


    You want to dispute the numbers post something factual.
     
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  3. micksss

    micksss Notable Member

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    #263
    Not that it really matters but she was the mayor from 1996 to 2002. The U.S. Census Bureau recorded the city's population at 5,469 in 2000 and estimated it at 9,780 in 2007. So at the most I'd say around 6,700 at the end of her term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla

    I can't wait for this election to be over :p
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #264
    Nice to see the conversation continues on the defensive. Its pretty sad when all one has to do with regard to Palin is look at a record. With Obama its a matter of defending a record, making excuses for the record, associations and an inept running mate who does not even know what his boss (president of the senate) does.

    People who are guided by emotion don't tend to make very sound decisions. Nor do those they support.
     
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  5. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #265
    The guy filing the suit is a lawyer, im just the messenger, and already stated that i was no law expert. What i do know is this. If berg didn't have a chance, why would he appeal? As a pretty well established lawyer i trust him over the DP Law crew here anyday.

    Again Obamas dirty paws are all over this case

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=78931

    He is trying really hard to conceal his birth certificate. Why? Why cant he just produce it. Berg says if he produces it he will drop the case.
     
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  6. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #266
    I think ive heard that before, its a very true statement
     
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  7. Firegirl

    Firegirl Peon

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    #267
    I guess I left my brain at home today, but I don't understand what you mean by this statement?
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #268
    What I mean is, he was chose to run by his party. This decision was made prior to Kerry losing in 04. Soros is likely one of the largest contributors to that goal.
     
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  9. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #269
    Your link goes nowhere.
     
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  10. northpointaiki

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    #270
    Uh, Simply - it was 6500 or so when she was Mayor. Please slow down.

    No - I don't consider being Mayor of a town of 6500 qualifications for anything approaching the job she seeks, and that would be in the best of circumstances - an able, curious, flexibly responsive candidate.

    Here - entertaining, if sadly reflective of the reality:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP26nV3QFlA

    What's silly is to attempt to argue this mayor's job - "On Monday, we have a meeting, and Thursday, I write checks" as anything approaching "executive experience."

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    Obama's community work saw that laid off workers secured their health and pension benefits that was theirs to begin with. You may have a problem with seeing families that are owed this don't go under, but I consider it a helluva good fight to make.

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    Indeed. Your "8000 days of experience" is 22 years. Please detail what you're talking about. Being alive?

    Edits:

    Thanks, micksss - about what I had.

    Does anyone else find this funny, that the attempt continues to be made, regarding the VP's role relative to the Senate, constitutionally speaking? Or the attempts continue to try and portray others as "emotional freaks," when, uh.......?

    Sometimes, it's true, all you can do is laugh.
     
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  11. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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  13. northpointaiki

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    #273
    I've already said why, and you missed this as well. This is a "prayer for injunctive relief." It's an attempt to fuck the election, and tie it down, while his "complaint" wends through the appellate system. He's a lunatic and, yes, I'm aware he's a lawyer, but in all honesty, his briefs are just garbage - as the judge said, "frivolous." Frivolous is often used when a claim is so fraught with gobbledygook that it makes zero sense. Such is the case here, as I said. Again - the guy draws on all kinds of unrelated crap to try and make his case:

    Anyway, from your continued misunderstanding of the very nature of this case, what a Memorandum and Order ruling on a Motion to Dismiss means (and how the ruling is arrived at), I don't believe you can understand, Simply. Good luck with whatever's on your plate.
     
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    #274
    In the USA, it is not illegal to hold dual citizenship: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

    I think what simplyg is referring to is that some people think Obama was a citizen of Indonesia, which at the time, did not allow or recognize dual citizenship. So the theory is Obama gave up his US citizenship to be a citizen of Indonesia. There's also a question of whether this would apply if Obama was under the age of 18 at the time.

    I think this is what he's talking about. Please correct me if I'm wrong simplyg...
     
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  15. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #275
    I stand corrected, Sarah Palins total days of executive experience is closer to 4000 days

    Regardless of the exact amount it far surpasses obamas, and arguing otherwise is laughable.
     
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  16. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #276
    Exactly, i may have twisted the details, unfortunately, unlike North, i do make mistakes, but you got it!
     
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    #277
    Haha...Jack Thompson was a pretty well established lawyer as well...until he was disbarred. Just because someone manages to pass a bar exam doesn't make them credible.

    He's not trying hard to conceal it. He posted the damn thing online for anyone to look at. When that was questioned, he let independent journalists come to his home office in Chicago and photograph the stupid thing. After doing all that, why would he waste time during a presidential campaign to respond to some media-whore asshat lawyer filing a frivolous lawsuit? He probably figured he had better things to do.
     
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  18. northpointaiki

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    #278
    I really wish people would grow up. I make lots of mistakes, and when I do, I hope I am corrected, as that's how I learn.

    On the other hand, I don't pretend to know less than I know, across the areas of knowledge I do have; nor will I allow untrue things - such as Mia and Co.'s constant refrain, that I'm a lunatic, a traitor, and all the rest - to stand.

    What I do, in fact, resent, is that someone like yourself, Simply, or anyone else, will make a strong assertion of fact, only to run for cover under the kinds of snide comments like the above, when a strong rebuttal is made. I don't respect that. That you don't know the law isn't my problem. You chose to raise the law, raise this lawsuit, as a bona fide issue of the election, and damn straight, I will reply, with what I know of the merits and potential of this ridiculous claim.
     
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  19. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #279
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1481.html

    It applies when your 18 or older.
     
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  20. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #280
    Actually he's in fact posted two totally different versions. When the first ws questioned he came out with a new one. Its not that hard to fake a birth certificate.

    Got $80? http://www.noveltycertifications.com/nobice.html
     
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