Is nofollow that bad ?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by gantapoc, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi everyone!

    We all know that nofollow attribute prevents page-donor to transfer LinkJuice (PR) to the page-recepient.

    But what about indexing? For example, I want some page to get indexed fast and I place a link on the web 2.0 service, which makes that link a "nofollow" link.

    The question is: will Google-Bot go through that "nofollow" link and index my desired page or not?

    And one more question: Will "nofollow" links help to improve SERP positions or not?

    Thanks beforehand to everyone involved in conversation.
     
    gantapoc, Oct 15, 2009 IP
  2. Bompa

    Bompa Active Member

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    #2
    Googlebot will add the link to the que to be crawled later.

    Googlebot will go to that page and save the source in it's database.

    Google should show that page with the site: operator.

    However, all this will not help that url to rank.

    sorry.
    Bompa
     
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  3. Prachi4Webdev

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    I don't think google crawl any of the link with no-follow attribute. So theres no question of SEO boost with such links but this will help you to bring traffic for your blog/website.
     
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  4. wildogre

    wildogre Well-Known Member

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    Its bad for search indexing but for getting traffic from that very blog its fine.
     
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  5. gantapoc

    gantapoc Peon

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    #5
    I read oficial comment from Google`s PIC on the official Google`s blog. The PIC said (earlier - when they just implemented no-follow feature) that they start using no-follow just to prevent spam, so they stop counting LinkJuice(PR) for this kind of links.

    Nothing had been said about that bot will or won`t crawl linked pages...

    So far I don`t have profflink with information about subject. Therefore ask you people to say your opinion. It would be great if anyone know official or reputable sources on subject...
     
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  6. mytheory

    mytheory Well-Known Member

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    IMO, it still help you to improve your SERP position
    as long as you optimize the anchor text match to your keyword you want to rank high
    Although it is nofollow link, and give no link juice to your page, it still counted as 'Keyword Focused Anchor Text from External Links' factors
    you could read this : 5 Top Factor affecting Ranking on Search Engine
     
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  7. ROOFIS

    ROOFIS Well-Known Member

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    Yes! Google-Bot's are going through those 'nofollow' links because google has been concerned with webmasters pagerank 'sculpturing' their sites. (directing pr juice to specific pages for SERP's) If Googlebot's find interesting reverent content on a page on the other side of such links then they may index though at pr0.

    Yes and No I've got a couple of articles written on the backend of my server and awaiting to be formally linked to the main index page. I checked googles index for my sites pages and to my amazement found them indexed :eek: :D I've got a 'nofollow' cfm (cold fusion script) page at the bottom of the main with all my pages/articles listed there. I tested the tile and content of my new articles in the SERP's and no they're not there. I as said before I checked the url for the new pages and they're sure enough indexed. So in a nutshell your pages will get indexed but won't show in the SERP's.






    ROOFIS:cool:
     
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  8. HalJordan

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    #8
    Fact : nofollow links don't pass PageRank
    Fiction : nofollowlinks don't contribute to rankings
     
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  9. juniorul

    juniorul Well-Known Member

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    #9
    a backlink it's a backlink
    you need backlinks to get in front in google
    a nofollow it's not the same with a do follow link but it's a link..so it's good
    that's all
     
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  10. gantapoc

    gantapoc Peon

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    #10
    That's a VERY interesting and knowledgeble information. Thank you for that.

    As I assume, page that is indexed - does pass it`s little LinkJuice (in case it uses DO-follow) even if it is not listed in SERP, right?
     
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  11. gordon08

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    I agree. If your site hasn't been indexed yet, it will be discover if you have a link, whether it is a normal or no-follow link.
    You shouldn't worry too much about whether a link is no-follow or not. As long as your link can drive traffic to your site, that is all that should matter.
     
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  12. dipali

    dipali Peon

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    #12
    If your link is no follow then crawler will not index your website.
    Nofollow links willnt help you to improve serps.
     
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  13. santamox

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    #13
    I'm going to think that you're not right. See what ROOFIS said.
     
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  14. Brandon_R

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    #14
    Here are some down sides of nofollow.

    • Search engines won't index the linked page
    • Search engines won't go to the linked page

    Here are some upsides of nofollow.

    • You prevent PR Leakage
    • You prevent people from spamming
    • Using nofollow can help keep your site from getting blacklisted ie looking like you are associated with 'bad' sites

    As you can see the benefits of using nofollow outweigh the downsides however some webmasters still choose to keep links dofollow.
     
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  15. Barre Tire

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    #15
    Okay enough already..

    NO - Follow is good for the webmaster who implements it to prevent some of your pr from being leaked. As far as no-follow not helping a link this is not true. Sure you won't get that happy pr juice that is for entertainment purposes only " quoting Google" But that is it.

    NO Follow does not effect pages getting indexed.

    No Follow does not effect your serps in fact if you get a no-follow link from a rellevant page it will help your serps and give you gains.

    I will gladly accept a rellevant no-follow link any day as far as the serps are concerned and rellevancy no follow is just like any other link.

    Don't feed into the stements made that search engines will not index you. This is NOT TRUE.
     
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    #16
    Remember when Google talked about paid links, they said to use no follow so it doesn't pass link juice. They never said you can't sell links. To many people are buying links for PR purposes only and this is what Google considers spam. A paid no follow link or any no follow link for that matter si not a bad thing.
     
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  17. timosai

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    Think if it from a data-gathering side on googles behalf, when its crawling around, its not going to give up on links you tell it. It will crawl for maximum information. How no-follow links are used in SERP remains unknown, but probably only affects it to a great degree, but i'm sure if google finds useful info on the other side of a nofollow, it will still index it; less strongly though.
     
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  18. santamox

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    #18
    Wake up, people. it`s 2 months already that no-follow doesn't prevent from "PR-leakage". Link Juice isn't transfered, but it is not reserved to other links - that's official information, you can see it on G's offisial blog.

    UPDATE: OK, I found official info which says that: (1) No PR in passed; (2) You can't affect SERP using by placing no-follow links.

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html

    But the question is still open: does G's bots go through no-follow links and index page-recipient on they don't ???
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009
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  19. ROOFIS

    ROOFIS Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does!::D Matt Cutts (google engineer) has written about this subject on various occasions.









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  20. Cyrus255

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    As common sense dictates: if all of the links pointing at your site are "nofollow", Google will not "trust" you. Let's call it the "trust" factor.

    How does Google know it can trust you? :p

    Nofollow is an indication from sites to Google to not blindly "trust" the link because the site owner is saying he can't vouch for it. Google, even if they want to lie and say there is no "negative" penalty, would be a fool not to factor that indication into their algorithm. A few nofollows won't hurt sure, but as far as trying to get *indexed* via nofollows, that's not a great idea. Let's say hundreds of nofollow blog comment links were pointing at your brand new site. Google will "factor" those things together to say there is a decent chance that this un-natural situation has developed as a result of "spamming".
     
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