Is my forum allowed? [Right Wing Nazism]

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by ChristopherSunderland, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. #1
    Let's Discuss Politics

    It is a free speech forum Where any Political views are welcomed, Nazism, Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Any Political View!

    But is it allowed?
     
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  2. torhost

    torhost Banned

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    Under US law it is legal, just watch your discussions on terrorism as some talk on that can be borderline illegal
     
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  3. ChristopherSunderland

    ChristopherSunderland Peon

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    :) It is Legal? Eh, That's not bad!

    And under English law?
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    It is legal but not very wise. Chances are that many search engines will ban the site and most places will forbid advertising. It would be hard to promote. If you are looking for making money, there are better ways. If you are looking to start something as an extension of your views, than it is legal. However, if it becomes too active and the free speech becomes hate speech, you will most likely make it on watch lists and could face legal problems from events that are inspired from the forum.

    The other problems could be hosting providers could delete your account so you would be forced to have your own server.

    I would not touch it with a thousand foot pole but that is just my opinion.
     
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  5. ChristopherSunderland

    ChristopherSunderland Peon

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    It is for Freedmon of Speech yes, Our own server?

    What about free speech hosting?
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I think it is illegal in Germany, they have specific laws on the holocaust. But I think for USA it should be. But your provider will be faced with a lot of pressure to shut you down even if it is your server. Your PMs and emails may be flooded with hate mails.
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    Free speech has its limit. When free speech turns into haters who plan violence, that is no longer protected by free speech. If something happens that is hatched with in your forum, you could be held liable. Some of the groups resort to violence to get their point across, and this will be a great haven for these people to meet up.

    I have no idea who free speech hosting is but most hosting providers will close you down if put under pressure.

    Like I said, if it is something that you want for your own personal views, go for it. However, you are not entering it blind and you know very well what could happen.
     
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    Even if it's legal, it doesn't look like something alot of people would join. The rules are terrible.
     
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    ChristopherSunderland Peon

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    Yes. We are not Fascist's or Racist's we are simply debating what is the best Political and religious views.
     
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    eddie43302 Well-Known Member

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    Yes we have the freedom of speech act here. Example in the United States say you wanted to hold a speech somewhere without proper warning! Well all you gotta do in the great ol' U.S.A is get yourself a flag and hold it up high cause as long as you have a flag handy your allowed to hold any free speech ceremony you want without warning as long as you got your trusty flag displayed properly :)
     
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    We have American servers with English Admins.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I am sure a lot will join but they won't be the most pleasant of posters. I can imagine ^$##&^## whatever coming out. It would be a nightmare to stop the virtual fights every single second.

     
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    eddie43302 Well-Known Member

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    But dont get me wrong i dont believe in none of what the original op posted i believe everyone is equal!
     
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    ChristopherSunderland Peon

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    Yes, Who said that was bad:)
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Lets wait and see! I will visit your forum in a few months time to see how it turns out to be, if you are still alive :)

     
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    Why not contribute now:D

    We are always looking for Moderators:)
     
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    Should we even give these views web space? Freedom of speech comes with an obligation to self censor, and another obligation not to utilize the privilege of free speech to offend others. The argument that it is fine to spout filth, due to the existance of free speech is the recourse of the very people, who if they were given the power to make laws would remove this privilege.
     
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    There is no freedom of speech in the UK.

    In general you can have a forum to discuss extreme right wing politics however you need to ensure that the topics remain on "politics" and do not descend into something that may be considered inciting race hate. Most neo-nazi's are not the most educated of people (more scarily are those that are) and so policing a forum so that it remains on discussing "facts" and doesnt descend into rubbish is going to be next to impossible.
     
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    Should we get blacklisted :D

    There is Freedom of speech in the UK. - BNP.
     
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    Last year a Canadian poster (Jessica Beaumont) on a US nazi/skinhead forum was successfully sued in Canada and ordered to pay a $4500 fine for 'hate speech'. Better check the 'hate speech laws' in your country, and the country where the site is hosted and where the domain is registered.

    http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/search/view_html.asp?doid=874&lg=_e&isruling=0
     
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