1st off macs are a fad, I think the things are absolutely useless, why would I pay twice as much for the same spec? and don't tell me it doesn't break if you're worried about that run linux, the only reason people buy macs is coz they think macs are cool, this fad will die out. And microsoft is currently clawing its way back against google, bings market share has doubled since july.
They may have doubled, but they are sure as hell not beating sales of PC computers, as I said. 90% of the world uses PC's. The rate at which 90% of the population buys a PC, surpasses the rate at which 10% of the population buys a Mac. Thats enough right there to show no microsoft is not losing the battle. Well, "pc" is not losing the battle to "mac". "Just as well" as PC's. JUST as. You make it seem like they try so damn hard just to keep up with a PC. I dont see how a mac is any cheaper to "maintain" then a PC. I already saved $1700 by getting an extremely fast, portable, sleek PC laptop that has better specs then a Macbook Pro. Sorry, I dont want to shell out an extra $1700 so I can look "cool" in a coffee shop with my MacBook that is so unique (yet every stuck up hipster in any city, has the same identical Macbook as the next). There is virtually no reason to own a Mac, unless you want to look cool and have money to throw around. Its not better for "designing" or whatever those bogus art schools claim. I owned a Mac a long time ago actually, and I hated it. Thats why I switched to PC's. Also I dont see where you "recently shown" how Macs run "just as good" as PC's.
It will be a long time before they loose it to a PC OS compared to a MAC. I like MACs but really a no competition and most people cannot afford one. Uh .. I'll take 2 or 3 of those ... instead of one of these. They are still too pricey.
Anything that's been around for 26 years and growing in sales is hardly a fad 50% of all college students use Macs and it dominates the design, film and publishing industry where Windows is little used. Apple guarantees everything works together, interoperates, plugs into each other and runs. Windows makes no promises on hardware and hardware vendors make no promises on software. We'll leave you in the dark as you prefer. See the fact I just stated 26 years and sales have doubled. Today's share price: Microsoft $29.75, Google $541.83, Apple $229.90 Then quickly halved. You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.
Never said they were. To the contrary, they don't try. Their goal is to be good, not beat Microsoft. See the thread and link I started on this board. Different software does not always need the same hardware. An assembly language program doesn't need as much power to do the same thing as a program written in Python. Is Microsoft going to guarantee that every piece of software you buy and every piece of hardware you buy you can plug into your machine and it will work and interoperate with every other machine? Is the hardware company guaranteeing that every piece of software you have will work with their hardware? Is there a Microsoft store near you where you can bring your box in for repair? You've never used a Mac so how do you know? Virtually every hollywood film is edited using some Apple hardware and software. Virtually every design or advertising firm uses Apple. Microsoft's own TV ads were edited on Apple hardware and software. When I worked at Silicon Graphics, the whole company ran on Macs for office work. Now you're making things up. And now you're putting words in my mouth.
Lose is spelled L-O-S-E. So how often do you have to upgrade your hardware to manage your software and Windows? How much does that cost you? The last MacOS upgrade was $29. How much is Windows7? Mac users didn't have to buy new hardware. Did you have to buy new hardware to run Windows7? So, a MacOS upgrade is $29. A Windows7 upgrade is $1700 according to what cluongo18 said he did. Of course you can get a cheaper Dell for $700. That's better. $700 for a PC upgrade compared to $29 for a Mac upgrade. Good deal. Windows is cheaper. Oh, wait. You just bought Windows7 and installed it yourself? How much was that? Did it work with all your hardware? Did Microsoft guarantee it would? Did your hardware vendor? If you had trouble installing it, who did you call? Was the call free? Hmm. Apple guarantees all that.
I don't know what this point what the purpose of this thread is. Were talking about Microsofts search engine Bing, then Macbooks, then PC's, then Apple, then stocks? Whats the whole point, is Microsoft AS A WHOLE losing against APPLE as a whole? (as in every single product they sell). If its Microsoft vs Apple, statistics show Microsoft population wise owns a way greater chunk then Apple with its influence. In the work place, school place, and at home every day use. Thats how it is, and how it will be for a long time. Dont give me that "art schools and companies uses macs" shit. Those companies and scam-schools make up .2% of the population. Yes Apple has been getting more popular (due to the iPhone and iPod), but their computers were never really known for being that awesome, or else they would be as popular as the Crapbookpro is now, back then. Yes, youll see Macbooks in lots of places, yes they are getting more popular. Yes you will see just about every person in the US with an iPod or iPhone. But people give too much credit to apple for this junk they make, when it existed before they made it. iPod (mp3 players), iPad (touch tablets), iPhone (touch screen phone), iMac (a computer..). Mac is known for its ease of use and sleekness, and because of that, the average simpleton artsy fartsy person with $2500 to blow gets it, because having a mac somehow makes you use Photoshop better (lol!) Also I dont appreciate you telling me im "making things up". I owned a Mac around 1999/2000 and hated every moment with it. When I go to my friends house and dont have my laptop, I use his Macbook all the time and want to kill myself. Ive messed around on a Mac plenty to know I hate them with a passion. Due to the fact that there are 5000000000000000 more hardware vendors and software companies for Windows, compared to the 5 for Mac, getting them to promise compatibility is impossible. If you look at the box, or online, a piece of software or hardware will tell you which OS it is compatible with. If you have been alive in the past century, you will have an updated PC with XP, Vista, or W7. If you have any of those, basically any piece of software/hardware you need, will work with any of those 3 OS's. If your ahead of time and want an older program, 9/10 there is a patch, or way to make it work. And if one program doesnt work, I will just move to the next company with the same software. Unfortunately with Mac, you dont have such a broad choice in hardware/software. Also I didn't put words in your mouth, I took them out of yours, want me to like, re-type what you said or can you not look back? "..To the contrary, as I've also just recently shown, Macs run software just as well as Windows PCs and are far.." Also the big point here is, $2500 for a Macbook. Or $800 for a nice PC that is FASTER. Has more SPACE. Can MULTI-TASK BETTER. Can do everything a computer $1700 more than it can, and BETTER. Macs are a waste of time, money, and effort. Oh wait, it takes no effort to bonk the big single button a Mac has as you click icons as big as your head, and TADA! Yay I kan do it on Mak b00k!11
Mac is certainly becoming more popular, and windows less so. But I'm pretty sure that windows will remain the front most OS as it's more dynamic and has more freeware. Mac on the other hand is a much better OS for designers than windows because of its' spaces features
It was all related somewhat, except the Bing reference. That was from left field. I'm not arguing that though the OP was. I will argue that Macs have picked up quite a bit of interest. In the past, it would be unusual for someone to own a Mac. In one of my son's colleges, he's the only one who doesn't own a Mac. The other son said he sees them everywhere and guesses 50% would seem about right. I forgot the television and gaming industry, like EA, and Pixar and Steven Spielberg and James Cameron and other sh*t companies that don't know what they're doing. Don't go OT. We're talking Macs, not anything else. Like I said, you've never used a Mac. I've never heard anyone call Mac hardware junk. The more you write, the more it sounds like you are giving your own reasons you should buy a Mac. And you're comparing 10 year old memories to what? So your friend has a Mac? Why? Does he want to kill himself? Perhaps you're trying to make a Mac work like Windows. While Windows tries to act like a Mac, Macs will never try and act like Windows. Advantage: Mac. Installed, guaranteed and for $29? Cause you don't need them. Advntage: Mac. You were talking hardware, there I was talking software. Because it needs to be. Because Windows needs it. False! MacOSX is Unix and Windows can't match that. False! Macs can run the same software as Windows can just as well. Again, your opinion is opposite of the report about large companies who purchase Macs in the other thread.
Mighty long fad: 27 years and counting ... You don't pay twice as much for the same specs, with comparable material. That's kinda like saying a Golf costs twice as much as a Lada - they're both cars with motors, but they're hardly made with the same components. I don't buy Macs "casue I think they're cool". I buy them because I always have, and I can't stand using Windows-equipped PCs because they're too prone to bugs, crappy performance (though maybe 7 fixed that, haven't used it so can't say).
An open Source implementation of a Unix environment with closed source code is no advantage. Apple take my code and never give back. The GPL is great for communities but not abused by massive companies such as Apple. Recently they have completely ignored their traditional core market and targeted home users. The Adobe Fiasco is enough for me to stop all support of this closed source OS immediately. Apple had their chance but greed overtook their concept of how to do business.
This makes no sense. Nor does this. You're saying Apple's core market was business? So what are you supporting now? Quit making us guess at what the heck you're talking about.
What's funny in all this defense of Apple is that I've never owned one myself. I used them in past jobs, though. I really should and will probably get one or two next year. Probably cause my background is electronic engineering and I've built computers from the chip level up and feel strange buying packaged units.
i agree that users of mac are increasing day by day but microsoft still have the large number of users in some circumtances you can call it a default operating system like someone who is a normal system user mac is usually preferred by the programmers
Is this a joke? Mac does not want to enter the Business world. They want to focus on education area and for personal use. There OS cannot support the business applications. Mac is good for Graphics, and itunes. Since Windows 7 came out laptops are selling for more as compared to with Windows Vista.
Absolutely false! OSX is Unix and can handle any type of application. If you mean "Windows applications" then the same can be said that Windows can't support "Unix applications" but that's a different story.
I been working in IT from 7 years. Most companies don't make software for mac such as QAD, Poplesoft, HFM, inventory softwares and so on.... Mac wants to focus on Education, school, and personal computers. I worked in several companies ranging from 3500 users to 15000 users. They barely had any Macs. They had few Macs for graphics and design only. Macs are good machines but they does not want to enter the corporate computers environment.